Icicle 896 Posted October 3, 2013 At least the "real" Witches acquited themselves reasonably well...pity about the guests though. Ah weel at least for a bit we were top.... A sad injury covered ending to season.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotchopper 312 Posted October 3, 2013 Anyone who thinks cookie cannot team ride get a copy oh ht11, SENSATIONAL Sneddon showed all the doubters as well Well done monarchs thoroughly deserved here's hoping we finish it off tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,483 Posted October 3, 2013 At least I can sleep well tonight Was slightly concerned when Ippo went 6 up after 10, especially with rain imminent but 3 unbeaten rides from Cookie plus 2 unbeaten from Smokin Joe plus 5 paid 6 from skipper Deek plus a win for Claus saw us to full points. Track was surprisingly good given the heavy rain today though the shower towards the end made it a bit greasy. The gamble of having 2 high rollers(!!) as guests never paid off for Ippo - a warning for each of Bach and Klindt in their first rides blunted that part of their game, though they did try it again and both took the tapes with them that time. Well done to Chris Gay the ref - that's the way to deal with it. Cookie obviously remembered him from Rye when he fell foul of him 3 times in 1 night. He sat perfectly still this time. Schramm the bam couldn't conjure up a repeat of his Worky form and scored what you would have expected from him i.e. not a lot plus a fall. Credit for clearing the track so quickly. Hawkins was a big disappointment (for Ippo fans - not for me). 3 falls in 5 rides when I expected him to wipe the floor with our reserves. Didn't clear the track when he came off in heat 2 which I thought was a bit naughty but he did clear it from a fall when last in heat 14 so credit to him for that. He seemed to need a bit of treatment after his heat 14 fall so I fully expect him not to be at Edinburgh on Friday :wink: Risager was surprisingly good - 11 points from the number 5 position when he gets so much grief from Ippo fans, He was well slagged off during/after the 5-1 loss in heat 11 to Deek and Cookie but in fairness Cookie's team riding was outstanding - very wide into bends 1 and 3 and very tight to the kerb coming out of bends 2 and 4. He spent as much time looking behind as he did in front and was going to have the measure of anything Risager threw at him. Morten could have tried some more different lines of attack but Cookie would have been there. Which only leaves Heeps who rode very well apart from heat 15 where he was miles behind the field (but still pulled wheelies on the warm down lap which seemed a bit odd given his team had just finished pointless again!). For Monarchs, well........... Cookie yet again untouchable. So fast, so controlled, so smooth, so much drive and straight line speed. Can't remember but maybe he was behind until bend 3 once! And that with a bad knuckle!! Max was a major disappointment. 1 point from 3 is not what we are used to. Not at the races in heat 1, an ok 3rd in heat 5 (though it was Klindt he beat with Klindt in gate 1, so nuff said!!) and overtaken easily by Heeps and Hawkins in heat 8. Maybe he was still suffering from his big shunt last week? Claus got better with each ride - 0, 1, 2, 3 so that was encouraging after his recent form slump. Seemed to struggle on turns 3 & 4 in his first couple whereas he was quick enough round 1 & 2, but an improved performance. Joe was his usual unpredictable self. Demolished the tapes in one, good win in another, slowed to last in the next to lose out to Bach who was off 15m, but then a good win and paid win to finish. Looked smoother than I've seen him!! Theo was also a big disappointment. Was well ahead in his first till he made a big pig's ear of bend 3 lap 1 to drop to 3rd, then way off the pace in his next 2. Then in heat 13 he was well back until lap 4 when he mounted a big charge to catch Bach. He got up to him by bend 3 and went for the big drive round 3 and 4 but careered into the fence at the start of the home straight. He probably didn't need that much speed to have taken Back. His bike was a bit of a mess but hopefully he is in better shape. Liam was unlucky. He was well ahead in heat 2 for a couple of laps until it was stopped - he wasn't going to be caught. But in the rerun and his other 2 rides he was a fair way back though he did let Theo through each time. And then there was Cap'n Deek!! Sensational!! 3 rides on the trot early on and then 3 rides in 4 heats later on, he must have been knackered by the end!! But all worth it for a monster 16+1 from 7 rides. Given that his form has been dire for the past few weeks and that he scored a blank the last time at Ippo, he deserves mega praise. So a very unexpected 4 points and now just need to avoid a mega home defeat from the Ippo select on Friday. Oh and another thing - burger and chips from the 2nd bend stall = superb But size of crowd - very poor though the dodgy weather forecast must have put a lot off. So onwards and upwards Monarchs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,483 Posted October 4, 2013 Just my last(?) words on the subject....... - mega praise to the track staff for getting the track into such a good state considering the rain yesterday. It seemed much smoother than on my past couple of visits. There wasn't a huge amount of overtaking after the first couple of bends but I don't think that was down to the track. And big commiserations to the Ippo team, management and faithful (seriously ). To have your team decimated by injury on one weekend when prior to Ellis' injury everything was looking so good must be heartbreaking. So this was a genuine hard luck story. I think with your own team rather than the rag-tail set of guests it would have been a different result on the night though we would probably still have picked up 1 point as Cookie still wouldn't have been beaten and Deek would still have been Billy Bigballs :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,483 Posted October 4, 2013 Can someone who was at the meeting last night please confirm whether Hawkins was in heat 14? I have him in my programme as replacing Schramm (and then falling yet again, but clearing the track just in time) but Speedway Updates has it as Schramm. I got it wrong the last time when Edinburgh were at Ippo and Max replaced Deek which I hadn't picked up so maybe I have tried to compensate here Or maybe I got it right this time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 4, 2013 You have it right - Ritchie did come did fall and did clear the track just as you imagined. A doubt for tonight with reoccuring niggle! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Had Enough 233 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Can someone who was at the meeting last night please confirm whether Hawkins was in heat 14? I have him in my programme as replacing Schramm (and then falling yet again, but clearing the track just in time) but Speedway Updates has it as Schramm. I got it wrong the last time when Edinburgh were at Ippo and Max replaced Deek which I hadn't picked up so maybe I have tried to compensate here Or maybe I got it right this time Entirely my fault - I thought they said Hawkins was coming in, but they both looked equally slow and unsteady last night (shame for Hawkins, but predictable for Schramm) and in the gloom (darkness and mood) I was convinced it was Schramm. To be honest, I was well past caring by then . Now corrected on Live Updates. Thanks for your review - very balanced. Good luck to the Monarchs in the final - probably against Somerset sometime later this year. Vissing ought to be up for a spin at the OTA and maybe Pijper will enjoy it more than he does Foxhall. Edited October 4, 2013 by Had Enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,483 Posted October 4, 2013 A doubt for tonight with reoccuring niggle! Strange niggle that one - any true cynic would think he doesn't go well up there He should take a leaf out of Sneddon's book and overcome his demons Entirely my fault - I thought they said Hawkins was coming in, but they both looked equally slow and unsteady last night (shame for Hawkins, but predictable for Schramm) and in the gloom (darkness and mood) I was convinced it was Schramm. To be honest, I was well past caring by then . Now corrected on Live Updates. Thanks for your review - very balanced. Good luck to the Monarchs in the final - probably against Somerset sometime later this year. Vissing ought to be up for a spin at the OTA and maybe Pijper will enjoy it more than he does Foxhall. Cheers HE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted October 4, 2013 I Believe!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Lucan 375 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) I Believe!!!!!! You'll be the only one AF, not even a shaman would touch this with a prediction!! Was looking good when I checked the score last night before I went to work, 6pts up thought, Comets could get a result here after all, looked again when I got home, wheels had come off game over!!! Still, never mind, there's always next year? Edited October 4, 2013 by Lord Lucan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bash 496 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Hawkins was a big disappointment (for Ippo fans - not for me). 3 falls in 5 rides when I expected him to wipe the floor with our reserves. Didn't clear the track when he came off in heat 2 which I thought was a bit naughty but he did clear it from a fall when last in heat 14 so credit to him for that. He seemed to need a bit of treatment after his heat 14 fall so I fully expect him not to be at Edinburgh on Friday :wink: Risager was surprisingly good - 11 points from the number 5 position when he gets so much grief from Ippo fans, He was well slagged off during/after the 5-1 loss in heat 11 to Deek and Cookie but in fairness Cookie's team riding was outstanding - very wide into bends 1 and 3 and very tight to the kerb coming out of bends 2 and 4. He spent as much time looking behind as he did in front and was going to have the measure of anything Risager threw at him. Morten could have tried some more different lines of attack but Cookie would have been there. Concerning Hawkins fall in heat 2 the bike was on top of him so it would've been a struggle to get off the track in time. Risager always buzzes around the back wheels of the opposition in front of him but never looks like he is going to get passed them. Congrats to Cookie on another max, but did he really need to try to force himself past Sneddon off the last bend. Well done to Derek for blocking him, Cookie only thinking of himself again . Thought Chris Gay was at fault for a lot of the starts tonight, holding the tapes for far too long when the riders were perfectly still, the smell of burning clutches at the start line was fowl. Also when Rene was put back 15m, Chris Gay must have slipped on the button as the tapes went up so fast that Rene wasn't even in position to start the race! Edited October 4, 2013 by Bash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted October 4, 2013 Any updates for this tonight? I fancy a laugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
London Witch 57 Posted October 4, 2013 Any updates for this tonight? I fancy a laugh I have never been so uninterested in a meeting as I am this one tonight. Its as if a bunch of riders are just using our name, just so glad nothing is at stake. Stay safe Morten and Cam (and everybody else). Its safe to say I won't be following updates. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crescent girl 1,907 Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Thought Chris Gay was at fault for a lot of the starts tonight, holding the tapes for far too long when the riders were perfectly still, the smell of burning clutches at the start line was fowl. Also when Rene was put back 15m, Chris Gay must have slipped on the button as the tapes went up so fast that Rene wasn't even in position to start the race! I am unaware if Mr Gay reads these pages, but his good work in watching out for Klindt (especially) and Rene Bach at the starts suggests he was well aware of the criticisms being levelled (again, particularly at Klindt) on here pre-match. I would guess that Mr Dishington was equally particular at Edinburgh last night, as Klindt didn't get away with any of his speciality rollers, and was predictably dire as a result. Edited October 5, 2013 by crescent girl 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Young51 156 Posted October 7, 2013 A wee bit late maybe but..and I'll keep this brief...GIRUT Well done Monarchs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
