stratton 1,491 Posted December 19, 2013 So u wont go every week becausse its watered down, but you would have gone every week if there were no stars but stronger reserves? Do u really think with no gp riders admission would have come down?There are only Ward, Woffinden, Iversen,( that are real stars) anyway so that wouldn't of been that much of a loss.My take on it that there should of been a longterm plan, proper research done on what is really needed to steady the ship.But this new rule has been rushed through we still don't no fully how it will work do we.Do you think people will pick and choose meetings because of the admission? i do personally because dress it up as much as you like it is now an inferior product as a whole than it even was last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted December 19, 2013 There are only Ward, Woffinden, Iversen,( that are real stars) anyway so that wouldn't of been that much of a loss.My take on it that there should of been a longterm plan, proper research done on what is really needed to steady the ship.But this new rule has been rushed through we still don't no fully how it will work do we.Do you think people will pick and choose meetings because of the admission? i do personally because dress it up as much as you like it is now an inferior product as a whole than it even was last year. So you don't think M Zagar is a class act?, personally I think having 2 young N.L. British riders at reserve can only benefit British speedways long term plan, after all it done no harm in Poland. Looking at the way teams are panning out for this season I recon we are in for a more evenly matched EL where more than 1 or 2 teams standing any chance of winning it. Bring it on. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ukrossifan 77 Posted December 19, 2013 So if attendances are all about the world star riders how come 2 tracks with some of biggest crowds in country have been Dudley in NL and Leicester in PL? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greyhoundp 990 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Tai signs http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.23509 Good to see him back. Edited December 19, 2013 by greyhoundp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted December 19, 2013 There are only Ward, Woffinden, Iversen,( that are real stars) anyway so that wouldn't of been that much of a loss.My take on it that there should of been a longterm plan, proper research done on what is really needed to steady the ship.But this new rule has been rushed through we still don't no fully how it will work do we.Do you think people will pick and choose meetings because of the admission? i do personally because dress it up as much as you like it is now an inferior product as a whole than it even was last year. Clearly what has been produced is not a perfect solution. But tbf, the two main things people seemed to want were more meetings and more brits, and this gives both. People seem to acknowledge cost cutting was needed to make things viable, but then gripe about prices not being reduced, ehich would have wiped out any brnrfit of cost cutting. You say you wouldnt miss tai, wsrd, nki, zagar or bjerre but... who do u really think you will miss out of the riders forced out by tbe changes? I think they should have also added a ten per cent reduction fot british riders, this would likely have been enough to ensure the likes of auty secured a team berth. Thinking back to the 80s when the mandstory junior rule came in, the msin impact was fircing down to the nl vetrrans who were now only 3rd hest leaders/second strings ( l collins kennet jessup etc) as well as plenty of decent second strings/reserves ( likes of l carr, courtney and a host of others). Anyway, this is probably the erong thread gor yhis debate anyway, but in summary I reckon far less people will stay away under this format than if they had ditched the stars. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chalkie 263 Posted December 19, 2013 Clearly what has been produced is not a perfect solution. But tbf, the two main things people seemed to want were more meetings and more brits, and this gives both. People seem to acknowledge cost cutting was needed to make things viable, but then gripe about prices not being reduced, ehich would have wiped out any brnrfit of cost cutting. You say you wouldnt miss tai, wsrd, nki, zagar or bjerre but... who do u really think you will miss out of the riders forced out by tbe changes? I think they should have also added a ten per cent reduction fot british riders, this would likely have been enough to ensure the likes of auty secured a team berth. Thinking back to the 80s when the mandstory junior rule came in, the msin impact was fircing down to the nl vetrrans who were now only 3rd hest leaders/second strings ( l collins kennet jessup etc) as well as plenty of decent second strings/reserves ( likes of l carr, courtney and a host of others). Anyway, this is probably the erong thread gor yhis debate anyway, but in summary I reckon far less people will stay away under this format than if they had ditched the stars. Blimey, mate you are all thingers and fumbs this morning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paddy The Rebel 300 Posted December 20, 2013 Piotr pawlicki 7.00 and ricky wells 5.35 confirmed for wolves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnglishRoundabout 1,752 Posted December 20, 2013 So you don't think M Zagar is a class act?, personally I think having 2 young N.L. British riders at reserve can only benefit British speedways long term plan, after all it done no harm in Poland. Looking at the way teams are panning out for this season I recon we are in for a more evenly matched EL where more than 1 or 2 teams standing any chance of winning it. Bring itn. I'm one of only a few on here that agree with your sentiments hyderd. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted December 21, 2013 Tai Woffinden has a 9.20 average and Kim NILSSON has a 5.18 average Averages you MAY need soon are Adam Skornicki 6.14, Nicolai Klindt 4.24, Pontus Aspgren 4.04 and Lukas Dryml 5.71 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted December 21, 2013 Why is Kim Nillson relevant. He has signed for Eastbourne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted December 21, 2013 because in the list on page one, Tai and Kim had their averages missing, so postd what the missing figures were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted December 21, 2013 because in the list on page one, Tai and Kim had their averages missing, so postd what the missing figures were. was busy with my sisters wedding so only managed to do half a job lol. x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noggin 1,390 Posted December 21, 2013 Tai signs http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.23509 Good to see him back. was also reported on radio 5 live, so good bit of publicity for the sport . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted December 23, 2013 was also reported on radio 5 live, so good bit of publicity for the sport . and the daily Mirror. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted December 23, 2013 And in the sport headlines on TALKSPORT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites