Woz01 3,589 Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) I can see a fair few deciding that they're better off riding NL/PL, which could mean going down to NL second strings to fill the 20 slots. A good idea but maybe too much too soon to have two per team. I understand them not being paid vasts amounts but £40 a point? Dont see how that will improve British riders. Edited November 23, 2013 by woz01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,824 Posted November 23, 2013 Wonder if Joe Haines is ready for a comeback no he could ride for Wolves and in the PL Even if he is , he isnt the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,963 Posted November 23, 2013 Well as the days go by the pathetic joke is left to continue getting worse by the day.Why would a young rider want to ride in the top league rather than the other 2 leagues & who are these riders? No thought has gone into this & it's becoming ridiculous as the lack of information continues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny the spud 2,281 Posted November 24, 2013 I understand them not being paid vasts amounts but £40 a point? Dont see how that will improve British riders. That's less than in the premier league It's also taking the piss. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,701 Posted November 24, 2013 Sounds like the Elite lge have just integrated a couple of NL heats into an EL match on the cheap. If this is an exercise to help young brits, why pay them peanuts, it should be Prem lge rates at the very least, if not more. These lads need investment, not shackles... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyE 822 Posted November 24, 2013 I think you should wait for the full detail of how the 'draft' riders will be rewarded financially and their associated costs covered. They cannot put that bad a deal on the table that no one would take it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500cc 309 Posted November 24, 2013 Irrespective of who goes where, I just think it's bloody fantastic that Poole have to finally track a couple of British Riders. Fraud and The Lapdog must be spitting feathers! They will likely have three British riders as they have promised Kyle Howarth a spot and you'd assume he is over qualified for a reserve spot. I actually think that is very good for British speedway. I don't think many people would argue that Poole are probably the best run team in the league (it's the other bits that people of a problem with). To have virtually half the team filled by promising youngsters at a club that is reputed to be popular for riders can only be a good thing when you consider British riders going forward. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrow boy 119 Posted November 24, 2013 Lewis Blackbird has tweeted that NL riders being promoted to NL will only get £40 a point! Surely that cant be right, for some that might be petrol money alone! He also questioned if or not they will be guaranteed to be paid for a minimum of 3 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Only heard on the grapevine but the reserves are reported to be assured of £200 a meeting which is ok to cover travel costs, fuel and get a decent wage if they are riding three or four meetings a week in different leagues but the worrying thing for me is the costs incurred with the bikes. If these riders are expected to ride in three leagues, they will need at least two bikes ready to go at all times and a few spare engines and parts just to keep going. Do riders like Adam Ellis, Ashley Morris etc have that sort of equipment now or do they have to fork out a five figure sum before the season starts and if so how many meetings will it take to cover those costs ? Also if these riders are expeced to ride in 36 Eiite League matches, 28 Premier League matches and also National League meetings, who gets priority when there are a clash of dates ? ...... Also what facilities will be available to cover for these clashes ? ..... With these riders riding mainly against themselves and second strings, a rider like Lewis Blackbird or Adam Ellis could be averaging seven or eight points a meeting. Who are an EL team going to get to cover a rider scoring that each meeting ? I feel it would have been more beneficial to have had all Premier League teams track British reserves and have the EL track just one at reserve which could have been shared equally by two riders taking a mimimum 6 home and 6 away each. However the PL have decided to turn a blind ee to these riders and maintain a list of foreign riders that are averaging well below their starting assessed averages and unlikely to ever reach that figure. Edited November 24, 2013 by T.N.T. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Voice Of Reason 2,124 Posted November 24, 2013 Only heard on the grapevine but the reserves are reported to be assured of £200 a meeting which is ok to cover travel costs, fuel and get a decent wage if they are riding three or four meetings a week in different leagues but the worrying thing for me is the costs incurred with the bikes. Just to add, £200, minus income tax AND a mechanic's wage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,057 Posted November 24, 2013 Why should PL sort the s##t the EL has got themselves in to?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,824 Posted November 24, 2013 Why should PL sort the s##t the EL has got themselves in to?? The EL is trying to sort the future of the youngsters in the UK, something that the PL cant be bothered with. It seems they are happy to have a foreigner doing the job instead. Someone has to start so the EL promoters should be applauded where the PL have failed. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted November 24, 2013 The EL is trying to sort the future of the youngsters in the UK, something that the PL cant be bothered with. It seems they are happy to have a foreigner doing the job instead. Someone has to start so the EL promoters should be applauded where the PL have failed.Perhaps you coukd list all the British riders who have ridden for Wolves this century - it shouldnt take long! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,824 Posted November 24, 2013 Perhaps you coukd list all the British riders who have ridden for Wolves this century - it shouldnt take long! Tai Woffinden, Joe Haines, David Howe, William Lawson, James Grieves, Ben Wilson, Lee Smethills, Carl Wilkinson, Lee Complin, Joe Screen, Chris Neath, Ashley Morris. I`ll let you know when i think of some others from earlier in the century . ;-) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,355 Posted November 24, 2013 They will likely have three British riders as they have promised Kyle Howarth a spot and you'd assume he is over qualified for a reserve spot. I actually think that is very good for British speedway. I don't think many people would argue that Poole are probably the best run team in the league (it's the other bits that people of a problem with). To have virtually half the team filled by promising youngsters at a club that is reputed to be popular for riders can only be a good thing when you consider British riders going forward. I think you mean best run club.. Which is correct.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
