foamfence 2,917 Posted November 23, 2016 Regarding the opening meeting abandonment and subsequent financial consequences, it occurs to me that the meeting could just have easily been rained off. What would the difference have been? Well it could have been quickly rearranged or they could have moved on to meeting number two, both less damaging compared to what did happen. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 23, 2016 Regarding the opening meeting abandonment and subsequent financial consequences, it occurs to me that the meeting could just have easily been rained off. What would the difference have been? People expect natural things like rainoffs, but it's different when negligence and cover ups are expected to be accepted. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugwash 3,208 Posted November 23, 2016 He also owns a blinds business and installed the blinds at the NSS so it's probably to do with that. But again it doesn't surprise me if zagar dIddnt even have to pay for his mechanic and all he had to do is show Up and ride his bike for allegedly 3k per meeting £1000 per point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,355 Posted November 23, 2016 The are several clubs owed a lot more than that for payments from Belle Vue owed for visits there. But then again there are three other clubs that haven't been paying away points which sets up cash flow problems for the others. The sport is awash with debt. I feel terribly sorry for Chris Morton. He is a good genuine bloke and doesn't deserve what's happened to him. Likewise.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Al 708 Posted November 25, 2016 I was told a while ago that the name of National Speedway Stadium is just a name given to the place by its creators and is not any official endorsement of its status. This seemed more than a bit strange to me, as from my albeit limited knowledge, the place is supposed to be multi-function venue,funded by Manchester City Council! It can't help when trying to market it to other sports and event organisers. Why could it not have been called The Peter Craven Arena (or similar)- with stands named after Peter Collins and Ivan Mauger? Clearly the place needs to get a main sponsor as well. It all stinks of poor management by Manchester City Council Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted November 25, 2016 I was told a while ago that the name of National Speedway Stadium is just a name given to the place by its creators and is not any official endorsement of its status. This seemed more than a bit strange to me, as from my albeit limited knowledge, the place is supposed to be multi-function venue,funded by Manchester City Council! It can't help when trying to market it to other sports and event organisers. Why could it not have been called The Peter Craven Arena (or similar)- with stands named after Peter Collins and Ivan Mauger? Clearly the place needs to get a main sponsor as well. It all stinks of poor management by Manchester City Council If it wasn't for the council there wouldn't be any speedway next season and the stadium wouldn't have been built in the first place. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 25, 2016 If it wasn't for the council there wouldn't be any speedway next season and the stadium wouldn't have been built in the first place. Very true - and the new Stadium looks like a vast improvement on Kirky Lane. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted November 25, 2016 If it wasn't for the council there wouldn't be any speedway next season and the stadium wouldn't have been built in the first place. When do they expect all of the development and building costs to have been recouped by incomes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted November 26, 2016 When do they expect all of the development and building costs to have been recouped by incomes?65 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinmauger 584 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Adding my 2p's worth: obviously a big shame how things have turned out for Belle Vue, But Morton & Co did so blooming well getting the stadium built in the first place. To get a flavour of how (so slowly) these matters move (if at all): identify an area of apparently empty land then apporoach your local, hopefully friendly, councellor to ask about putting in a speedway track, informing him / her you already have funds available. Then see where you are 5, then 10 years later . Hope things get sorted at the NSS soon.... Edited November 26, 2016 by Martin Mauger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Thumper 528 Posted December 7, 2016 Everything seems to have gone a bit quiet on the NSS front. Has anyone heard anything definite on whether they have found someone to take the lease on? Perhaps, they need to get any potential new leaseholders very carefully vetted by Manchester City Council's legal/financial bods. Obviously, it would be nice to hear something about any new leaseholders before Christmas but I suppose the City council have to extra cautious after the problems with the previous tenants. Hopefully, with a new lease in place, Belle Vue Aces can start making some plans for 2017. Fingers crossed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted December 7, 2016 Everything seems to have gone a bit quiet on the NSS front. Has anyone heard anything definite on whether they have found someone to take the lease on? Perhaps, they need to get any potential new leaseholders very carefully vetted by Manchester City Council's legal/financial bods. Obviously, it would be nice to hear something about any new leaseholders before Christmas but I suppose the City council have to extra cautious after the problems with the previous tenants. Hopefully, with a new lease in place, Belle Vue Aces can start making some plans for 2017. Fingers crossed. The chairman says that progress is being made, both at Belle Vue and Leicester. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Thumper 528 Posted December 7, 2016 The chairman says that progress is being made, both at Belle Vue and Leicester. Okikoki. Do me a favour, foamfence, put me a link up to the chairman's statement about the progress that is being made. Ta muchly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted December 7, 2016 Okikoki. Do me a favour, foamfence, put me a link up to the chairman's statement about the progress that is being made. Ta muchly Can't remember where but it was in the last few days.....And I'm not a liar! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Thumper 528 Posted December 7, 2016 ..............or if foamfence has gone for a bit of a lie down, perhaps someone else would be kind enough to give me a link? Thanks Can't remember where but it was in the last few days.....And I'm not a liar! Good grief! I was not aware that anyone had suggested that you were a liar. I have always regarded you as an honourable person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
