*JJ 512 Posted August 4, 2014 It's been tried, it's been tested, and that's the end of the story. And you can smell it ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted August 4, 2014 No riders would ever cheat because they're all "lovely lads". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted August 4, 2014 Lying down in the corner when your team mates behind forcing a rerun..... is it cheating, or making the most of the rules..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted August 4, 2014 And you can smell it ... All depends how and when it's used, but with the strict testing and punishment on offer, would surely take a fool to use it!! Anyone know what the current punishment is for anyone caught using it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugwash 3,208 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Ive never once heard anyone condemn Joe Screen doing it in the race when Mark Loram won the World Championship. He clearly shut off on the 2nd bend and let Mark pass him to get the 2nd he needed to guarentee the title. It's not illegal it's called team riding. Edited August 4, 2014 by pugwash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted August 4, 2014 Lying down in the corner when your team mates behind forcing a rerun..... is it cheating, or making the most of the rules..... It's cheating. But to some the punishment is worth it. Patrick Head (F1 technical guy) once said (and I'm paraphrasing here), "They make the rules, it's my job to push them to the limit and beyond if I can". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugwash 3,208 Posted August 4, 2014 It's cheating. But to some the punishment is worth it. Patrick Head (F1 technical guy) once said (and I'm paraphrasing here), "They make the rules, it's my job to push them to the limit and beyond if I can". Did he not also say 'To go beyond were no man has gone before'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odds On 373 Posted August 4, 2014 All depends how and when it's used, but with the strict testing and punishment on offer, would surely take a fool to use it!! Anyone know what the current punishment is for anyone caught using it. surely no rider would use ilegal fuel in this day and age?....regarding punishment, if Kennetts punishment is anything to go by then a tasty ban would be in order but like I say surely no rider would get caught in this day and age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montie 1,273 Posted August 4, 2014 Im not sure how much proper cheating actually goes do yes we have all seen a rider all off and take a sneaky look,rolling starts,blasting through the tapes etc but isn`t that all part of the game ' Proper cheating" use of drills,bigger engines odd squirt of Nitro etc has i`m sure been done in the past but i`m not sure how much this goes on really One thing that did make me think though is i took a bit of a petrol head to a Scunny meeting a few months ago and he asked me if riders used nitro,,,,when i replied no and asked why he replied " cos i can smell it!!!! if it was a Scunny rider it didnt do much good as we lost!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted August 4, 2014 It's cheating. But to some the punishment is worth it. Patrick Head (F1 technical guy) once said (and I'm paraphrasing here), "They make the rules, it's my job to push them to the limit and beyond if I can". Paul Starke got fined for it at Plymouth recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marron 7 Posted August 4, 2014 I've noticed more and more at Redcar over the last couple of seasons riders going through the tapes on purpose to make a change or have a rider going off a statistically better gate. Sometimes it's obvious that a team will do it. I (along with others around me) predicted that Williamson would when Scunthorpe visited a couple of weeks back and, sure enough, the tapes were broke. Coincidence? I seem to recall a meeting vs Workington a while ago that saw both sides doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,736 Posted August 4, 2014 There have always been "big engines" in use and I`m sure nowadays`s is no difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted August 4, 2014 Did he not also say 'To go beyond were no man has gone before'? Is that what Matt Ford says? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 4, 2014 Paul Starke got fined for it at Plymouth recently. now there's a one,,, seemingly at Berwick v Newcastle last season, can't prove anything, but did look a little bit suspicious ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted August 4, 2014 Ive never once heard anyone condemn Joe Screen doing it in the race when Mark Loram won the World Championship. He clearly shut off on the 2nd bend and let Mark pass him to get the 2nd he needed to guarentee the title. wrong race. That was a heat Mark needed to come second in to progress. Screen let him through then repeatedly blocked any attempt from a young Jarek Hampel to pass That put Mark into the semis where he came 3rd then needed 2nd in the consolation final which he did behind Golllob in front of Wiltshire and Gustafsson. Your point is valid though as if Mark was 3rd behind Screeny he wouldnt have progressed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
