magnificentseven 236 Posted August 19, 2014 Forgetting the "illness" let's not forget that Polish riders are often put in a difficult position by their clubs and PZM and can face fines or bans from racing if they don't do as they are told and a ban would hit them abroad aswell so they lose everything. Piotr has been a revelation at Wolves this year and I know very well that he has enjoyed rididing at Monmore Green and for Wolves and if he wasn't "ill" (or told not to ride ? ) he would be riding and showing what has made him the top Wolves rider in 2015 by almost a point !! If the reason for his absence was other than illness then the situation has been compounded as he is clearly lying - better to be up front and admit the real reason. Either way he has shown utter contempt for the club and its fans over the last two meetings - he can't be trusted to turn up anymore. As good as his season has been it is time for a parting of the ways - once - the Leicester match - may have been excusable - but he has done twice in succession now so time for him to go. From the lack of people on the terraces last night it was clear that his decision not to bother turning up had a an effect on the crowd. Time to get rid of the foreign riders who can't or won't commit to Britain and form a bigger league without them. On a different tack it was interesting to hear Woffy talking to Porky after the meeting last night - he at last admitted to his lack of points being the major reason for our inability to reach the play offs - perhaps some of the fans' comments are finally getting through - if he does decide to ride in Britain next year let's hope he doesn't take on so many activities outside speedway. Wolfie 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted August 19, 2014 If the reason for his absence was other than illness then the situation has been compounded as he is clearly lying - better to be up front and admit the real reason. Either way he has shown utter contempt for the club and its fans over the last two meetings - he can't be trusted to turn up anymore. As good as his season has been it is time for a parting of the ways - once - the Leicester match - may have been excusable - but he has done twice in succession now so time for him to go. From the lack of people on the terraces last night it was clear that his decision not to bother turning up had a an effect on the crowd. Time to get rid of the foreign riders who can't or won't commit to Britain and form a bigger league without them. On a different tack it was interesting to hear Woffy talking to Porky after the meeting last night - he at last admitted to his lack of points being the major reason for our inability to reach the play offs - perhaps some of the fans' comments are finally getting through - if he does decide to ride in Britain next year let's hope he doesn't take on so many activities outside speedway. Wolfie I agree with much of what you say, however, it is very likely he has little choice in the matter and publicly at least cannot say anything other than he has or will be found accountable 'back home' where polish riders must do as they are told, no excuses. So I do feel some sympathy for Pawlicki as an individual, but as you say, Wolves must protect their own interests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fish keeper 165 Posted August 19, 2014 Well Piotr manager was over does any one know what as gone on or been said to our management if genuinely ill then fair enough but I just don't buy in to that as he been stopped from riding here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,823 Posted August 19, 2014 Well Piotr manager was over does any one know what as gone on or been said to our management if genuinely ill then fair enough but I just don't buy in to that as he been stopped from riding here. I don't believe the `genuinely ill` line one bit. And in truth we know it isn't an illness 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted August 19, 2014 Piotr's absence is purely down to pressure from his Polish masters. Its exactly the same situation as KK at Birmingham - and he was castigated by many on here, so if it was right to have a go then, it is right to have a go now. Not that I have a problem with either rider no matter who they are riding (or not riding) for!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houdi 535 Posted August 19, 2014 I don't believe the `genuinely ill` line one bit. And in truth we know it isn't an illness Maybe he suffers with hay fever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,823 Posted August 19, 2014 Maybe he suffers with hay fever. That could be added to the `excuse` list i suppose! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Parrys International Wolves have received information this morning that Piotr Pawlicki is unable to race this evening owing to illness. While we find this disappointing- less than 24 hours after he scored a 15 point maximum in the World Under 21 Championship-and the second successive meeting he has been absent after a 100% commitment record previously it would be unwise to make any further comment until we have spoken at length with his Polish manager Krystian Plech who had arranged to travel with Piotr this morning and will still be attending tonight. With the unavailability of any suitable guest Wolves will operate the rider replacement rule to cover his absence with all team members eligible to take a ride This was just posted on wolves website. Much as I love to watch piotr this is a disgrace. If he can't be arsed then time to say goodbye. This shows just how weak the sport is in this country. CVS has steadfastly over the last 25 years said that anyone that did not commit to Wolves fixtures would not ride for the club,and he has been as good as his word,now he is prepared to tolerate riders messing the club around with what we know are fake absentees just because it is the best rider at the club and there isn't a ready made replacement. Edited August 19, 2014 by New Science Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfsbane 12,944 Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) This shows just how weak the sport is in this country. CVS has steadfastly over the last 25 years said that anyone that did not commit to Wolves fixtures would not ride for the club,and he has been as good as his word,now he is prepared to tolerate riders messing the club around with what we know are fake absentees just because it is the best rider at the club and there isn't a ready made replacement. 24 hours on and not a whisper on the OS as to the outcome of the 'talks' with his Polish manager, if indeed he was in attendance and any said 'talks' have taken place. Mushroom management of the supporters yet again. 'If we keep quiet then with a bit of luck they'll forget about it'. How's about 'We need to keep the folks who pay our wages fully informed of the situation'. When are they going to understand that their silence only promotes rumour & speculation. They just ain't learning. Edited August 19, 2014 by Wolfsbane 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leicester Lion 274 Posted August 19, 2014 This shows just how weak the sport is in this country. CVS has steadfastly over the last 25 years said that anyone that did not commit to Wolves fixtures would not ride for the club,and he has been as good as his word,now he is prepared to tolerate riders messing the club around with what we know are fake absentees just because it is the best rider at the club and there isn't a ready made replacement.That's right. Yesterday's press release set the tone for Wolves not tolerating such absences, but it needs to be followed up with stern action. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,823 Posted August 19, 2014 This shows just how weak the sport is in this country. CVS has steadfastly over the last 25 years said that anyone that did not commit to Wolves fixtures would not ride for the club,and he has been as good as his word,now he is prepared to tolerate riders messing the club around with what we know are fake absentees just because it is the best rider at the club and there isn't a ready made replacement. That's right. Yesterday's press release set the tone for Wolves not tolerating such absences, but it needs to be followed up with stern action. We don't know what was said or what the plans are. Personally it wouldn't surprise me if they let Pawlicki go over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted August 20, 2014 24 hours on and not a whisper on the OS as to the outcome of the 'talks' with his Polish manager, if indeed he was in attendance and any said 'talks' have taken place. Mushroom management of the supporters yet again. 'If we keep quiet then with a bit of luck they'll forget about it'. How's about 'We need to keep the folks who pay our wages fully informed of the situation'. When are they going to understand that their silence only promotes rumour & speculation. They just ain't learning. Let's wait and see what unfolds this week before castigating them just yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjsj9803 324 Posted August 20, 2014 Lets not forget woffy deemed himself fit enough to race in the gp's last year yet missed league matches last year, it isn't just foreign riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfsbane 12,944 Posted August 20, 2014 Let's wait and see what unfolds this week before castigating them just yet. The longer any situation goes on without comment in any walk of life these days indicates news management & the spin machine going into overdrive. We'll see I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,823 Posted August 20, 2014 Lets not forget woffy deemed himself fit enough to race in the gp's last year yet missed league matches last year, it isn't just foreign riders But at least he was honest with his reasons (and was carrying an injury). Piotr is using that old Polish line of being sick just before or just after a meeting in Poland. Nobody buys it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
