Leicester Lions 2015

[springdale 45]

Wouldn't Doyle be riding in the GP's on a Saturday, and practice on Fridays ?

[TMW 533]

Wouldn't Doyle be riding in the GP's on a Saturday, and practice on Fridays ?

DH said he could work roubd that but didn't say how.....all indications were 2 no 1's

Edited November 2, 2014 by TMW

[arnieg 3,711]

He certainly shouldn't be looking at his average in Poland. I know it a league below but he is higher that some established riders.

However it is from reserve so not a good indicator.

 

His Swedish and Polish scores are probably a better indicator.

 

Danish Superliga: Niklas Porsing 6.29, Kenneth Hansen 6.42, Wozniak 6.83. Max Fricke 7.12, Nikolai Klindt 7,17, Krsyztof Buczkowski 7.43, Patrick Hougaard 7.53

Allsvenskan: Wozniak 6.67 (but just 2 matches) - nearest comparators: Patrick Hougaard 6.61, Jacob Thorsell 7.02

 

Crucially 2015 will be his first season as a senior rider - often the 'make or break' season for Polish prospects

[Trees 2,814]

Shock, Horror!! British EL Saturday track signs young Polish rider, before knowing the points limit, the assessed average or the fixture list!! How many meetings will he actually ride in???

 

Is this really a 'Norrie Allan' masterstroke or a touch of naivety at its worst??!

Green eyed monster ;-)

[Skidder1 7,664]

Green eyed monster ;-)

Not at all.

 

MF's got his teams pencilled - subject to any bans and riders' GP preferences. Not forgetting any possible 'backtracking' at the AGM!!

Edited November 2, 2014 by Skidder1

[Trees 2,814]

Not at all.

 

MF's got his teams pencilled - subject to any bans and riders' GP preferences. Not forgetting any possible 'backtracking' at the AGM!!

Let's hope they all have, after all they have been having pre conference meetings, for all I know they decided what 2015's average would be last year!

[INCOGNITO 357]

Good signing in Wozniak but it is a gamble signing him without knowing the average or limits for next season but would think he has to be at least 5.00.

 

Think Jason Doyle could be a bad move next season now he is in the GP's and a move for Hans Andersen or Kenneth Bjerre would be a better move.

[weatherwatcher 664]

From what I have seen of Wozniak's riding, from the few meeting that I saw him in Sweden on Eurosport, he is a very talented young rider. I personally think he will be a very good signing for the Lions for next year.

As someone already said in a post earlier. The promoters already know what is going to happen at the AGM this year, as they have already sat down and made thier minds up what rules and regulations they will bring in next season.

Just hope they don't make the usual hash of it as they normally do.

A buch of 10 year olds could come up with some better ideas than the BPSA come up with, year in year out. All they do is try and cover thier own backs, with no thought of bringing speedway in a new era. It needs some radical ideas to bring it into the 21st century istead of being held back in the 1960's.

It will not be just a matter of glossing things over to keep the ball rolling. They have got to re-think how the sport needs to be run to make it into a major sport not the bottom of the class it has now become.

Looking forward to hearing who the other 6 or if DH gets his way 7 riders will be.

It is no use people ion here guessing who they will be because I think that we will be in for some more suprises.

[Happy Hunter 377]

Good signing in Wozniak but it is a gamble signing him without knowing the average or limits for next season but would think he has to be at least 5.00.

 

Think Jason Doyle could be a bad move next season now he is in the GP's and a move for Hans Andersen or Kenneth Bjerre would be a better move.

 

Not sure if this helps the debate about rider's averages but here is the appropriate extract from the 2014 Regulations:-

 

17.3 RIDERS MATCH AVERAGES (see SR 16.2 for Definitions) and GRADINGS

17.3.1 Riders new to Elite League racing are categorised as follows:

Cat 1: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Polish

Ekstraliga, the Swedish Elitserien or any other Professional Speedway League, or

any Rider subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship

Cat 2: Riders not riding in a Professional League (excluding those in Category 3)

Cat 3: Commonwealth and USA (to a maximum of 4 each season) Riders new to British

Speedway

Cat 4: Riders who have been declared on the British Speedway Fast Track Development

Programme (FTDP Riders)

17.3.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the EL racing is:

Cat 1 as per SR 17.3.3

Cat 2 4.00

Cat 3 3.00

Cat 4 as per SR 17.3.6

17.3.3 Category 1 Riders will be listed on a “Grading Riders List”, published annually at the end of

each season showing an Assessed MA based upon results obtained in all other Professional

Speedway Leagues during that season.

[Woz01 3,589]

 

Not sure if this helps the debate about rider's averages but here is the appropriate extract from the 2014 Regulations:-

 

17.3 RIDERS MATCH AVERAGES (see SR 16.2 for Definitions) and GRADINGS

17.3.1 Riders new to Elite League racing are categorised as follows:

Cat 1: Riders with an end of the previous seasons published average in the Polish

Ekstraliga, the Swedish Elitserien or any other Professional Speedway League, or

any Rider subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship

Cat 2: Riders not riding in a Professional League (excluding those in Category 3)

Cat 3: Commonwealth and USA (to a maximum of 4 each season) Riders new to British

Speedway

Cat 4: Riders who have been declared on the British Speedway Fast Track Development

Programme (FTDP Riders)

17.3.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the EL racing is:

Cat 1 as per SR 17.3.3

Cat 2 4.00

Cat 3 3.00

Cat 4 as per SR 17.3.6

17.3.3 Category 1 Riders will be listed on a Grading Riders List, published annually at the end of

each season showing an Assessed MA based upon results obtained in all other Professional

Speedway Leagues during that season.

That could easily change at the AGM and it should if the draft system and heat format continue. He should be at the very least a 5.5 rider perhaps a 6. Edited November 3, 2014 by woz01

[barrow boy 119]

Not sure if this helps the debate about rider's averages but here is the appropriate extract from the 2014 Regulations:-

 

17.3 RIDERS MATCH AVERAGES (see SR 16.2 for Definitions) and GRADINGS

17.3.1 Riders new to Elite League racing are categorised as follows:

Cat 1: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Polish

Ekstraliga, the Swedish Elitserien or any other Professional Speedway League, or

any Rider subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship

Cat 2: Riders not riding in a Professional League (excluding those in Category 3)

Cat 3: Commonwealth and USA (to a maximum of 4 each season) Riders new to British

Speedway

Cat 4: Riders who have been declared on the British Speedway Fast Track Development

Programme (FTDP Riders)

17.3.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the EL racing is:

Cat 1 as per SR 17.3.3

Cat 2 4.00

Cat 3 3.00

Cat 4 as per SR 17.3.6

17.3.3 Category 1 Riders will be listed on a “Grading Riders List”, published annually at the end of

each season showing an Assessed MA based upon results obtained in all other Professional

Speedway Leagues during that season.

So Milik in on a 4 was deemed to be Category 2 then because presumably he was not part of any professional league racing. Was this correct?

[Trees 2,814]

The BSPA ought to talk to 10 year old kids to ask them what would make their experience better at speedway meetings.

Edited November 3, 2014 by Trees

[superguest 194]

Sorry, good financial shape. This season was the best yet financially and attendance numbers. Take Note Robert) The FIM event was afinancial disaster witha loss of £7500 and DH will only accept another if it was right for the club.

 

There is always Sundays when there isn't a GP.

 

Sundays are a no go in the EL. The riders need to be in Poland on sundays. Running saturdays means riders have got to get to Poland. So Fridays may be your best bet. With GP weekends, run Thurs!

[superguest 194]

Sorry, good financial shape. This season was the best yet financially and attendance numbers. Take Note Robert) The FIM event was afinancial disaster witha loss of £7500 and DH will only accept another if it was right for the club.

 

There is always Sundays when there isn't a GP.

 

Sundays are a no go in the EL. The riders need to be in Poland on sundays. Running saturdays means riders have got to get to Poland. So Fridays may be your best bet. With GP weekends, run Thurs!

[magnificentseven 243]

An Under 21 Polish rider and a Saturday night track is a recipe for disaster.

 

It will almost certainly be spot the meeting he rides in.

 

Wolfie