Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 9, 2014 Well no but social media, forums and speedway friends give me a good view on fans opinions 87.51% of all statistics are made up. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agrotron 955 Posted November 9, 2014 80% of fans do not want fixed race nights What a load of pony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) So where did you come up with 80 % ?It's a estimation. What a load of pony A bit like your posts then Edited November 9, 2014 by Phil The Ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superguest 194 Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Personally, im not a massive fan of mondays because it is a late night and a long week ahead, especially if you lose. Tough one to work out unless you try another day. Thursday nights are imo our best bet at top level. Gives the riders time to fly back from sweden. Then try to Limit premier league to race fri-wednes! Edited November 9, 2014 by superguest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted November 9, 2014 87.51% of all statistics are made up. Sounds just like the Tories !!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john birch 85 Posted November 9, 2014 You will never get me at another so called Elite League meeting until tracks race on a fixed night or at least Wed/Thurs combi. Top flight speedway is completely untenable on Fridays and Saturdays due FIM and Premier League. And before any Coventry fans tell me Thursdays didn't work, sorry but it was the worst team in 30 years (one win in the first dozen and the wooden spoon that caused the crowd to drop off). Having said that I think the original poster's idea does have some merit though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christopher Bcmma Cook 33 Posted November 9, 2014 This was my suggestion to the future of speedway British Premier League North Berwick Edinburgh Glasgow Newcastle RedCar Sheffield Workington Belle Vue Birmingham Coventry Leicester British Premier League South Ipswich Peterborough Plymouth Rye House Scunthorpe Somerset Eastbourne Kings Lynn Lakeside Poole Swindon 11 teams per league playing each other Home & Away (20 matches) in Total. Overall League Winner is crowned respective Champion of each Division i.e. a Northern & Southern regional Champion (receives a trophy) Both Northern & Southern Champions have a two-legged “Final” to be crowned overall British Speedway Premier League Champion (receives a trophy) Introduce – British Speedway KO Cup 10 Team seeded into Round 2 (Random Draw) Round1 - 12 teams race off for 6 places in the next round home & away legs Round 2 – Last 16 home & away legs Round 3 – Last 8 home & away legs Semi Finals – home & away legs Final – Last 2 home & away legs Maximum meetings to win the trophy = 10 minimum or 8 if seeded Introduce – British Speedway League Cup Same format as above but no home/away legs, luck of the draw as to who gets home advantage, neutral venues however for Semi Finals and Final. Maximum meetings to win the trophy = 5 meetings or 4 if seeded If someone was to do the Quadrupal of Regional League Champion, British Champion. KO Cup and League Cup champion it would be no more than 37 meetings or minimum of 34 Regional Main leagues in order to boost attendances Teams to go back to 6-rider teams running a same format as in 97’ with 15 heats. All Cup competitions to run under the 13 heat format. Rider no.6 to be a Fast Track rider either nominated by the league or through the Academy team if the club has one. Must be British and you convert their National League average (unless they already have premier league average). For the first season, all averages must be converted from either the conference or elite league into what their "premier league" average would be (unless they already have a premier league average) for team building purposes. Guest riders can only be sought from the other regional championship i.e. a Glasgow guest can be acquired from any team in the Southern league and vice versa. Need to look at getting the “British Final” individual meeting at the Olympic Stadium, Speedway needs to get back into London. If the GP riders are lost then so be it, Speedway needs to fix itself before it can sustain the big names, maybe in a few years there can be a Super-Six league put together in the summer featuring speedways biggest stars (bit like Indian cricket). But lets first fix the product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted November 10, 2014 82.89% of people who say 87.51% that said 80% are ex Speedway Supporters!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted November 10, 2014 82.89% of people who say 87.51% that said 80% are ex Speedway Supporters!! At least 150% of people agree with that !!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted November 10, 2014 Even if you asked people "Do you think fixed race nights are a good idea" and you found out 100% of people agreed they are, once you tell them that the race night is a Monday a load of them will complain, so you try and Wednesday and thats no good and so on. You'll never please the majority with a fixed race night. I've said for a long time now the issue is not a fixed race night but in stead a consistent fixture list that means teams ride once a week. Not 4 times in one week then once the week after followed by 3 weeks without a meeting. Doesn't work for the riders, clubs or fans who all end up with cash flow problems or get out of a routine. At least if it was 1 meeting a week, the fans would know every week to get home from work, feed the kids and head off for the speedway. No checking "is there a meeting tonight", the riders would know 1 meeting a week so would still get 2 or 3 days to relax, go home and see the family, chase sponsors or whatever else it is riders do. I don't think the day its done matters, just be consistent at each track. It madness that one clubs had completed all away fixtures last year but had only completed about 3 home meetings while other clubs had ridden half the total number of meetings but a consistent home/awya split. All clubs should have raced within 3 meetings (1 as you may race earlier in the week, 1 for a rain off and 1 because I'm a nice flexible guy) the same number of meetings all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted November 10, 2014 Even if you asked people "Do you think fixed race nights are a good idea" and you found out 100% of people agreed they are, once you tell them that the race night is a Monday a load of them will complain, so you try and Wednesday and thats no good and so on. You'll never please the majority with a fixed race night. I've said for a long time now the issue is not a fixed race night but in stead a consistent fixture list that means teams ride once a week. Not 4 times in one week then once the week after followed by 3 weeks without a meeting. Doesn't work for the riders, clubs or fans who all end up with cash flow problems or get out of a routine. At least if it was 1 meeting a week, the fans would know every week to get home from work, feed the kids and head off for the speedway. No checking "is there a meeting tonight", the riders would know 1 meeting a week so would still get 2 or 3 days to relax, go home and see the family, chase sponsors or whatever else it is riders do. I don't think the day its done matters, just be consistent at each track. It madness that one clubs had completed all away fixtures last year but had only completed about 3 home meetings while other clubs had ridden half the total number of meetings but a consistent home/awya split. All clubs should have raced within 3 meetings (1 as you may race earlier in the week, 1 for a rain off and 1 because I'm a nice flexible guy) the same number of meetings all season. Makes a lot of sense unfortunately the plonker who does the fixtures hasn't got any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 10, 2014 Even if you asked people "Do you think fixed race nights are a good idea" and you found out 100% of people agreed they are, once you tell them that the race night is a Monday a load of them will complain, so you try and Wednesday and thats no good and so on. You'll never please the majority with a fixed race night. I've said for a long time now the issue is not a fixed race night but in stead a consistent fixture list that means teams ride once a week. Not 4 times in one week then once the week after followed by 3 weeks without a meeting. Doesn't work for the riders, clubs or fans who all end up with cash flow problems or get out of a routine. At least if it was 1 meeting a week, the fans would know every week to get home from work, feed the kids and head off for the speedway. No checking "is there a meeting tonight", the riders would know 1 meeting a week so would still get 2 or 3 days to relax, go home and see the family, chase sponsors or whatever else it is riders do. I don't think the day its done matters, just be consistent at each track. It madness that one clubs had completed all away fixtures last year but had only completed about 3 home meetings while other clubs had ridden half the total number of meetings but a consistent home/awya split. All clubs should have raced within 3 meetings (1 as you may race earlier in the week, 1 for a rain off and 1 because I'm a nice flexible guy) the same number of meetings all season. A fixed night will do no good to British speedway. As you say, you can't please everyone all the time, and a lot of stadiums just could not be available every week on certain nights. So some tracks would not be available, and could close or have to drop to another league. The only group that want a fixed night is the riders who ride in multiple national leagues, but if a single night was chosen for the UK, how many tracks would actually be able to afford them. Instead of trying to eliminate the sport totally, let's stick with the tracks on their natural nights, based on stadium availability and the wish of most of the home crowd. There are bigger issues to tackle to maintain the sport, the biggest one being the shortage of British riders which, if sorted, could lead to the near elimination of expensive foreign riders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shrimmy 143 Posted November 10, 2014 Christopher bcmma cook could you please explain why scunthorpe is in the southern section when clearly Sheffield,leicester,Coventry and Birmingham are more southerly !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrow boy 119 Posted November 10, 2014 Christopher bcmma cook could you please explain why scunthorpe is in the southern section when clearly Sheffield,leicester,Coventry and Birmingham are more southerly !! And haven't Eastbourne have already announced that they will only be competing in The National League? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted November 10, 2014 This was my suggestion to the future of speedway British Premier League North Berwick Edinburgh Glasgow Newcastle RedCar Sheffield Workington Belle Vue Birmingham Coventry Leicester British Premier League South Ipswich Peterborough Plymouth Rye House Scunthorpe Somerset Eastbourne Kings Lynn Lakeside Poole Swindon 11 teams per league playing each other Home & Away (20 matches) in Total. Overall League Winner is crowned respective Champion of each Division i.e. a Northern & Southern regional Champion (receives a trophy) Both Northern & Southern Champions have a two-legged “Final” to be crowned overall British Speedway Premier League Champion (receives a trophy) People have been saying this for years now.. Its nothing new, but its the way forward imo.. That said, you must have some sort of fixed nights for speedway. You will never please everybody. But its got to be done.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
