NeilWatson 1,988 Posted February 18, 2015 Reserves are not eligible for Heat 15 - see SR 17.2.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) A few little changes but would have liked to have seen the reserves protected less with only one reserves race and the #6 (Tier 1) having to face a few heat leaders / second strings instead while the #7 (Tier 2) meets the opposing #7 more often. Also would have liked to have seen a change in the heats where a teams 1-5 meets the opposing 3-4 in consecutive heats. Would rather have seen 1-5 v 1-5 twice or 1-3 v 1-3 in another heat as these heats at present are often 5-1's or 8-1's Do like the fact that heat 14 is now a race that is generally the 3rd and 4th strongest in the teams ..... Second strings are going to be vital as many of the Tactical Rides could be taken in heats 8 and 9 17.2.1 = The 15 Heat Format for all Elite League Meetings is HEAT 1 1c-d2a-b1d-c2b–aHEAT 26b–a7d-c6a-b7c–dHEAT 33c-d5a-b3d-c5b–aHEAT 44d-c7b–a4c-d7a–bHEAT 52b–a6d-c2a-b6c–dHEAT 63a-b4c-d1b–a5d–cHEAT 71a-b5c-d3b–a4d–cHEAT 84a-b7c-d2d-c6b–aHEAT 92c-d6a-b4b–a7d–cHEAT 103b–a5d-c1a-b2c–dHEAT 111b–a2d-c3a-b5c–dHEAT 126c-d7a-b6d-c7b–aHEAT 131d-c5b–a1c-d5a-bHEAT 143d-c4b–a3c-d4a–bHEAT 15Top Scorer’s Heat: see SR 15.14(NB. not #6 or #7) Edited February 18, 2015 by T.N.T. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted February 18, 2015 Moan? And herein is part of the problem that has the sport where it is in this country. Many don't moan.. they simply walk away. Something that still to this day the sycophants and lackeys haven't worked out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted February 18, 2015 It does seem having a quick look at the meeting rules they are eligible for heat 15 as a top scorer from 4 programmed rides. Stand to be corrected. Would still prefer to have old format where they meet everyone. Sorry KN1 - not heat 15!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KN1 168 Posted February 18, 2015 Reserves are not eligible for Heat 15 - see SR 17.2.1 So that contradicts 15.14.3 then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted February 18, 2015 So that contradicts 15.14.3 then You can't expect all rules/regs to be totally clear KN1?! This is speedway after all!! Although 15.14.3 does state 'No reserve switches', but could be better worded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted February 18, 2015 The away #5 looks to have a tough night Wonder how many would put their top rider at #5 instead of #1 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointsmeanplayoffs 417 Posted February 18, 2015 Riding at 3 seems tougher this year; of the 8 opponents they face in their programmed 4 rides, 7 of their opponents will be heat leaders (1,3,5). Only once do they face a second string. Riding at 1 means you face a second string twice, and at 5 it's three times. Is there a rule around where riders must be positioned i.e. top 3 must be at 1,3,5 etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Hunter 370 Posted February 18, 2015 Riding at 3 seems tougher this year; of the 8 opponents they face in their programmed 4 rides, 7 of their opponents will be heat leaders (1,3,5). Only once do they face a second string. Riding at 1 means you face a second string twice, and at 5 it's three times. Is there a rule around where riders must be positioned i.e. top 3 must be at 1,3,5 etc? The rule is that the top three riders in the averages must ride at either 1,3 or 5. The fourth and fifth in the averages must ride at either 2 or 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointsmeanplayoffs 417 Posted February 18, 2015 The rule is that the top three riders in the averages must ride at either 1,3 or 5. The fourth and fifth in the averages must ride at either 2 or 4. Thanks, I think the tactical element of who rides at each position adds 'something' for sure. Glad Stars have 2 'grade A' riders for their 1&3 positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks, I think the tactical element of who rides at each position adds 'something' for sure. Glad Stars have 2 'grade A' riders for their 1&3 positions. Wolves may struggle as only have 1 proven heat leader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrycuda 184 Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Post removed Edited June 2, 2015 by Barrycuda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted February 18, 2015 Did I imagine it or was it wishful thinking - only one dingly dangly do dah black and white tablecloth ride allowed this year? Please tell me I wasn't dreaming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrycuda 184 Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Post removed Edited June 2, 2015 by Barrycuda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted February 18, 2015 1&3 Home Side Heat...1 2 2 1 1 Heat...2 6 6 7 7 Heat...3 5 5 3 3 Heat...4 7 7 4 4 Heat...5 2 2 6 6 Heat...6 3 1 4 5 Heat...7 1 3 5 4 Heat...8 4 6 7 2 Heat...9 6 4 2 7 Heat.10 1 3 2 5 Heat.11 3 1 5 2 Heat.12 7 7 6 6 Heat.13 5 5 1 1 Heat.14 4 4 3 3 Heat.15 n n n n #1 = 12 - 34 - 35 - 15 ===== #1 = 12 - 34 - 35 - 15 #2 = 12 - 26 - 47 - 35 ===== #2 = 12 - 26 - 47 - 35 #3 = 35 - 15 - 12 - 34 ===== #3 = 35 - 15 - 12 - 34 #4 = 47 - 15 - 26 - 34 ===== #4 = 47 - 15 - 26 - 34 #5 = 35 - 34 - 12 - 15 ===== #5 = 35 - 34 - 12 - 15 #6 = 67 - 26 - 47 - 67 ===== #6 = 67 - 26 - 47 - 67 #7 = 67 - 47 - 26 - 67 ===== #7 = 67 - 47 - 26 - 67 Must admit it is pretty much the same home or away which is helpful but the inside gate is used by one team much more earlier in the match and the other team later in the match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites