daveallan81 330 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Now at the business end of my 1978 season research, I'm hoping to plug some gaps in the list of non-riding and non-reported number 8's and meeting reserves. The list is far too long to post directly, so it's been uploaded here https://www.dropbox.com/s/gytjp02lzpj15kq/1978REQD_number8s%26reserves.pdf?dl=0 List is in club order. If anyone can provide information I'd greatly appreciate it. Edited June 17, 2015 by daveallan81 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,658 Posted January 13, 2015 For the Reading ones: 10/4 none named - I'd guess Underwood and Gledhill were reserves for all four teams and then simply allocated to the first teams that needed reserves 11/5 Bob Humphreys and Ian Glledhill (per blank programme) 19/6 as for 10/4. Note Humphreys rode for Bristol in the match but then started in the Poole heat of the 'Victor Ludicrous' 4/9 Henryk Glucklich (he did ride in 2nd half) 16/10 Kevin Bowen - named in programme also: Belle Vue 10/6 Andy Heyes - per blank programme (also programmed to ride for BV in Scot Junior Lge match in 2nd half) 3/7 meeting cpostponed Birm 29/3Stuat Mountford (100% certain), 17/4 & 8/5 Andy Grahame (named in prog) 15/5 Grahame & Mountford (named in prog) 30/10 Grahame & Mick Blaynee (named in prog) Boston 15/10 filled in prog has no P'boro reserve named Bristol 14/7 Derek Hole, Les Rumsey, Graham Jones (named in prog) Cradley 29/7 not named in filled in programme I have Crayford 19/9 Tony Featherstone, Richard Davey, John Hooper, Tony Garrad (named in prog) Hackney 4/8 Ian Gledhill (100% certain) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted January 13, 2015 Bristol 14/7 - I make the Exeter team 1. Autrey 2. Rumsey 3. Prinsloo 4. Koppe. Who did Rumsey replace? Thanks for all that info, much appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,658 Posted January 13, 2015 Bristol 14/7 - I make the Exeter team 1. Autrey 2. Rumsey 3. Prinsloo 4. Koppe. Who did Rumsey replace? Thanks for all that info, much appreciated. Mike Farrell programmed at no 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon Hammer 576 Posted January 14, 2015 07/04 Bristol - Tony Garrad 10/09 Eastbourne - Mark Harris 15/05 Exeter - 17 Reidar Eide, 18 Bob Watts 01/06 Exeter - D Mortiboys 05/06 Exeter - Flatman rode in S/H 03/07 Exeter - Bob Watts 11/09 Exeter - Bob Watts 13/10 Exeter - Kevin Lock 04/08 Hackney - Ian Gledhill 13/10 Hackney - C Ackroyd 11/04 Leicester - Tony Garrad 16/10 Reading - Kevin Bowen 12/09 Weymouth - Mark Lynch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted January 14, 2015 10/09 Eastbourne - Mark Harris 15/05 Exeter - 17 Reidar Eide, 18 Bob Watts 01/06 Exeter - D Mortiboys 13/10 Hackney - C Ackroyd 10/09 That also answers another query concerning Mr. Harris' forename! 15/05 Bob Watts appears to ride in the #16 position - who did he replace? Can you say if he's been promoted to #17 or remained at #18? 01/06 Is this taken from a marked programme? Mortiboys doesn't appear to ride in the second half which I find a bit strange. If programme is marked, can you provide the 2nd half times, I know someone who would greatly appreciate them. 13/10 Ackroyd appears to be in the team at #7. Thanks for your help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon Hammer 576 Posted January 14, 2015 15/05 No.16 Bob Coles 01/06 Taken from marked programme. Only 2nd half details are Mortiboys in Y/B race 14 in place of Molyneux & Gugliemi Y/B race 15. Sorry no scores etc 13/10 you are correct, was at 8, but Eric Dugard dnr. No other riders in second half! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted January 14, 2015 01/06 Taken from marked programme. Only 2nd half details are Mortiboys in Y/B race 14 in place of Molyneux & Gugliemi Y/B race 15. Sorry no scores etc Interesting. The second half heats I have see Kevin Lock in y/b in 14 and Guglielmi in y/b in heats 15 & 17, details here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mimpv17kkqlmrt4/19780601ExevCov.pdf?dl=0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeW 46 Posted January 16, 2015 Taken from completed programmes; Mildenhall 24/09/78 - Newcastle No8 was David Bargh. Newcastle 24/04/78 - Newcastle No8 was Robert Maxfield.Newcastle 22/05/78 - Newcastle reserve was Kenny Carter. Teesside reserve was Martin Dixon. Newcastle 12/06/78 - Newcastle No8 was Nigel Crabtree. Teesside 25/05/78 - Workington reserve was Andy Margarson. No reserve programmed for Ellesmere Port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted January 16, 2015 Taken from completed programmes; Newcastle 22/05/78 - Newcastle reserve was Kenny Carter. Teesside reserve was Martin Dixon. Teesside 25/05/78 - Workington reserve was Andy Margarson. No reserve programmed for Ellesmere Port. 22/05 Can you confirm Louis Carr's score in heat 13? Speedway Star reports (ef, 1pt), pushed home perhaps. 25/05 I have Margarson at position 2 for Workington - who did he replace? The Teesside meeting works out as Ellesmere v Newcastle v Workington v Teesside but it seems strange that the home team are in position 4 in the line-up. Can you clarify this for me? Many thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeW 46 Posted January 17, 2015 The programme only shows Louis Carr has having finished in third place. Given the Speedway Star entry he probably pushed home. Margarson took all of the four rides of Arthur Price. The programmed team was Brian Havelock, Price, Robert Maxfield, Ian Hindle and Margarson. John Robson took Maxfield's rides. On checking the programme further Neil Collins rode in the Reserves' Scurry therefore he must have been the Ellesmere Port reserve. The home team were programmed at number 4 in the line-up but I don't know why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted January 17, 2015 The programme only shows Louis Carr has having finished in third place. Given the Speedway Star entry he probably pushed home. Margarson took all of the four rides of Arthur Price. The programmed team was Brian Havelock, Price, Robert Maxfield, Ian Hindle and Margarson. John Robson took Maxfield's rides. On checking the programme further Neil Collins rode in the Reserves' Scurry therefore he must have been the Ellesmere Port reserve. The home team were programmed at number 4 in the line-up but I don't know why. Crikey - Brian Havelock and John Robson - that brings back memories here in Sunderland. :approve: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted January 17, 2015 The programme only shows Louis Carr has having finished in third place. Given the Speedway Star entry he probably pushed home. Margarson took all of the four rides of Arthur Price. The programmed team was Brian Havelock, Price, Robert Maxfield, Ian Hindle and Margarson. John Robson took Maxfield's rides. On checking the programme further Neil Collins rode in the Reserves' Scurry therefore he must have been the Ellesmere Port reserve. The home team were programmed at number 4 in the line-up but I don't know why. Excellent, thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikingblue 2 Posted February 2, 2015 15/09 (Bristol v Hull) Hull 8: Nigel Crabtree 29/10 (Ellesmere Port v Belle Vue v Cradley v Hull) Ellesmere Port reserve was programmed as Pete Ellams but he moved into the team to replace John Jackson, no reserve added to the programme. Hull reserve - no one added to the programme. The reserves race had Robert Craven added to the three programmed riders, assume that he would have been the Ellesmere Port or Hull reserve if required. 07/10 (Halifax v Hull) Hull 8: Paul Wood 28/10 (Halifax v Belle Vue v Hull v Sheffield) Meeting reserves: Halifax - Klaus Lohmann was programmed but moved into the Belle Vue team to replace Uno Johansson, no reserve added to the programme. Belle Vue - Peter Wilson was programmed but he was replaced in the reserves race by Mick Warren. Sheffield - Paul Wood. Hull - Alan Stansfield. 01/06 (Ipswich v Hull) Ipswich 8: Nigel Flatman 09/10 (Newcastle v Hull) Hull 8: Dave Bargh 30/10 (Newcastle v Belle Vue v Hull v Reg Wilson Select) Meeting reserves: None added to the programme and there was no reserves race in the second half 28/09 (Sheffield v Hull) Hull 8: Alan Armstrong 19/10 (Sheffield v Halifax v Hull v Leicester) Meeting reserves: Sheffield - Neil Collins, Halifax - Phil White, Hull - Paul Greenaway, Leicester - Phil Hollingworth. All four were programmed but none rode in the meeting and there was no second half reserves race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikingblue 2 Posted February 2, 2015 06/10 (Workington v Hull v Newcastle v v Sheffield) Reserves: Hull - Mick Newton, Newcastle - Andy Margarson, Sheffield - Les Race. None of the three programmed rode in the match and there was no second half reserves race. 22/06 (Wimbledon v Hull) Wimbledon 8: Graeme Stapleton 22/07 (Swindon v Hull) Hull 8: Dave Bargh 07/07 (Wolverhampton v Hull) Hull 8: None added to the programme but could have been Stephen Barr who had two second half rides. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
