mdmc82 2,878 Posted January 22, 2015 Might be wrong but I don't think Holder is married, of course that might change now. What about the fact his son is british? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madsteve 52 Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Another mess for British Speedway Edited January 22, 2015 by madsteve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edmon 166 Posted January 22, 2015 What about the fact his son is british? Have read many times of people who could not enter the country even although they have wife and family here, so I would suspect it may not matter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,960 Posted January 22, 2015 You could argue that a fair few of those are already good at their jobs, but just fall short of the "criteria" to now suddenly get a visa. You're good enough to have a visa and ride over here if you averaged 7.00, come on over, but if you averaged 6.99 you're not good enough and stay away? If I just fall short of the points criteria to get an Australian visa, then it's too bad. There's always going to be a cut-off somewhere when you use points based assessment. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted January 22, 2015 So which British riders played Poker and haven't signed yet, probably knowing that there would be some better deals on offer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted January 22, 2015 So which British riders played Poker and haven't signed yet, probably knowing that there would be some better deals on offer. Cant see the riders being that clever tbh, its your livelihood on the line, if your not riding then your not earning, so would they really risk it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainAudi 147 Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) So which British riders played Poker and haven't signed yet, probably knowing that there would be some better deals on offer.hardly any of note. Todd Kurtz will be in demand I guess. (I think he has DN, but don't quote me on that) Edited January 22, 2015 by MonarchsMitchy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted January 22, 2015 So which British riders played Poker and haven't signed yet, probably knowing that there would be some better deals on offer. maybe not a rider, but Brian Havelock, Aaron Sumers must be worth a fortune now,,, Crikey!!! :shock: This could change a few things. :shock: more Swede's :-) Let me just get this right; there 22 speedway riders (absolutely integral to the success of speedway in this country) barred from entering what is their Mother Country. What has HM Queen to say about this; lets be straight to the point I have more in common with Ryan Douglas than the 22000 illegals(and more) from the EU and Third World trudging the streets of Bradford. So what the hell is going on with the UKBA to bar skilled Commonwealth citizens from working here. Speedways not just any old job; we cannot find 22 riders of their standard just off the cuff. I would fiercely contend that their absence seriously damages Speedway PLC in the UK and each individual promotion that employed them. Where can Scunny find two riders to replace Ryan Douglas and Alex Davies. A guy I work with his son; announced he was off to Australia at Christmas; packs his bags and flies to Sydney. Only got A Levels and has found a job already he's no specialised skills or qualifications; but the Aussies have not kicked him out. What sort of Visa would he need to bum around in Oz for a year. My neice works in Sydney has done for two years. She has a degree in Sociology and works in their equivalent of BUPA in administration what sort of Visa is that?. So why are we discriminating against Australians. Think about football and all the useless EU and African players that rock up here; end up sitting around on benches on ££££s then disappear. How the hell do they get in. This needs taking to the highest level of protest; the Queen as far as I am aware is the Head of the Commonwealth; and has the power to over rule the useless UKBA. As far as I am aware the Commonwealth still exists (it did for the games last summer anyway) so I cannot see how the UKBA can prevent the free movement of Commonwealth citizens from one country to another provided they have a viable occupation to go to or can secure work on arrival. I am spitting feathers about this; I bloody am. does the Queen like speedway ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted January 22, 2015 Let me just get this right; there 22 speedway riders (absolutely integral to the success of speedway in this country) barred from entering what is their Mother Country. What has HM Queen to say about this; lets be straight to the point I have more in common with Ryan Douglas than the 22000 illegals(and more) from the EU and Third World trudging the streets of Bradford. So what the hell is going on with the UKBA to bar skilled Commonwealth citizens from working here. Speedways not just any old job; we cannot find 22 riders of their standard just off the cuff. I would fiercely contend that their absence seriously damages Speedway PLC in the UK and each individual promotion that employed them. Where can Scunny find two riders to replace Ryan Douglas and Alex Davies. A guy I work with his son; announced he was off to Australia at Christmas; packs his bags and flies to Sydney. Only got A Levels and has found a job already he's no specialised skills or qualifications; but the Aussies have not kicked him out. What sort of Visa would he need to bum around in Oz for a year. My neice works in Sydney has done for two years. She has a degree in Sociology and works in their equivalent of BUPA in administration what sort of Visa is that?. So why are we discriminating against Australians. Think about football and all the useless EU and African players that rock up here; end up sitting around on benches on ££££s then disappear. How the hell do they get in. This needs taking to the highest level of protest; the Queen as far as I am aware is the Head of the Commonwealth; and has the power to over rule the useless UKBA. As far as I am aware the Commonwealth still exists (it did for the games last summer anyway) so I cannot see how the UKBA can prevent the free movement of Commonwealth citizens from one country to another provided they have a viable occupation to go to or can secure work on arrival. I am spitting feathers about this; I bloody am. calm down dear 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cue Ball 416 Posted January 22, 2015 Compton and Ben Wilson spring to mind as being very employable now (would have had them anyway personally) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted January 22, 2015 Here's some solid info; http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=2383 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idh 209 Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Latest from Scunthorpe Scorpions site http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=2383 Clarifies everything Sorry to duplicate Alans post must have been doing it the same time Edited January 22, 2015 by idh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joseq7 363 Posted January 22, 2015 Latest from Scunthorpe Scorpions site http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=2383 Clarifies everything Sorry to duplicate Alans post must have been doing it the same time No mention of the 7 point plus exemption. Alex Davies is 7+. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cue Ball 416 Posted January 22, 2015 Compton and Ben Wilson spring to mind as being very employable now (would have had them anyway personally) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,375 Posted January 22, 2015 if all this is true,what I don't understand is how did all the riders get in in the past few years ,I'm sure they don't change the criteria every year on visa's.Its meant to be aProfessional Sport but is run by amateurs who think they can do what they warn .It all seems a bit harsh IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites