f-s-p 832 Posted March 27, 2017 the other engine is not BMW , the guy who designed it did work for BMW but it has nothing to do with them , you don't plug it in to laptop to change anything , it' is still all mechanical but the ignition timing is changed by preset USB type plugs that you change when wanting different ignition timing , the engine has been around a few years now , it is a reliable engine , similar to GTR in that it is a twin cam , the oil stays in from service to service and it does 100 races between serviceSo this in the ENGine by a fellow called Gaschka or similar? Been told the same, good engine, available to test eadily but cost a lot to hire and use. Not even sure they are for sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,110 Posted March 27, 2017 So this in the ENGine by a fellow called Gaschka or similar? Been told the same, good engine, available to test eadily but cost a lot to hire and use. Not even sure they are for sale. Gatzka.Gashka was the German guy(of Polish parents) who went to Poland to try his luck and then gave up http://www.kroner-speedway.de/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,800 Posted March 27, 2017 So this in the ENGine by a fellow called Gaschka or similar? Been told the same, good engine, available to test eadily but cost a lot to hire and use. Not even sure they are for sale.yes , Adam scornicki has 2 on hire for this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 434 Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Didn't see one in the Polish pairs meeting on Eurosport. Everyone without a vested interest in the engine knew it was never going to do what was written on the tin, let's see the SS put a spin on this **** up, even Alistair Campbell would struggle with this one. Edited March 27, 2017 by Lord Skid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FAST GATER 855 Posted March 28, 2017 Would it matter if the GTR is 10hp less than a GM if all riders were on them ,please don't say the cost involved in changing because if the were 10hp more they would be sold out in double quick time.Perhaps as some have said working towards the GTR becoming the only engine for 2018 onwards would be a better way of riders getting used to them and and some use out of their existing GM 's. . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 434 Posted March 28, 2017 But all engines won't be equal, the PJR tuned GTR will be the quickest, but this argument will go on forever, but basically it will not happen, would very questionable if GTR could meet the numbers required worldwide. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montie 1,273 Posted March 28, 2017 You couldn't make it up, thieving bas##### should be made to pay their members debts first, bet Marcel thinks he's won the lottery without having to buy a ticket. Why should other promotions suffer because some cant run a business properly? Many promotions run a very tight ship and pay their bills and continue to run speedway,is it fair that their money should be used to bail out others? So, how many Gerhard engines are known to have been purchased to date? How many have been seen in use at Press & Practice days or early season matches? Almost no mention of it has been made. Does that mean that there is very little interest in switching to G. engines from riders? Ryan Douglas used one at the show ground last Friday,once got it set up looked fast enough to me like anything new i guess they will need some time to work them out 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,251 Posted March 28, 2017 I'm not against the engines existence and all for freedom of choice but I would strongly appose compulsory use. In the same way that electric cars may be cheaper to run but how would the driving population feel if they were told it's the only vehicle allowed on UK roads 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KN1 168 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Why should other promotions suffer because some cant run a business properly? Many promotions run a very tight ship and pay their bills and continue to run speedway,is it fair that their money should be used to bail out others? Ryan Douglas used one at the show ground last Friday,once got it set up looked fast enough to me like anything new i guess they will need some time to work them out those clubs bond money would of been part of that money, Plymouth boys were told they had to wait for the half they were getting of what they were owed until the new promotion had paid their bond, hows that work. imo the money would be better spent on promoting the sport nationally, possibly a deal for shale/airfences etc with a supply company to be equally divided throughout the leagues etc Edited March 28, 2017 by KN1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 29, 2017 But all engines won't be equal, the PJR tuned GTR will be the quickest, but this argument will go on forever, but basically it will not happen, would very questionable if GTR could meet the numbers required worldwide. This isn't about "world wide" and PJR wouldn't be allowed to service a sealed engine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 434 Posted March 29, 2017 So you have 2 donkey GTR's in the UK, then you fly out to ride in Sweden, Denmark, Poland and jump on your GM's. And who is going to service all the GTR's in the UK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted March 29, 2017 So you have 2 donkey GTR's in the UK, then you fly out to ride in Sweden, Denmark, Poland and jump on your GM's. And who is going to service all the GTR's in the UK? Why cant you ride your "cheaper BSPA GTR'S" abroad? Freddie Lindgren did. And did okay... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,299 Posted March 29, 2017 Nicklas will be using the @gerhardengines on bike no1 @KLSpeedway this season. Very impressed with his timed laps at Lynn this week. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,251 Posted March 29, 2017 So you have 2 donkey GTR's in the UK, then you fly out to ride in Sweden, Denmark, Poland and jump on your GM's. And who is going to service all the GTR's in the UK? And what are the service costs in the UK? As ive said before im all for choice but a sole engine requirement would generate a monopoly and ultimately drive prices up as you have to buy a GTR whatever the costs. At present riders can choose where they service their engines, to what level and how much. Choose whether they wish to ride GM, Jawa, GTR or A.N.Other and that is the perfect scenario. There are currently very few enforced equipment uses in speedway & long may that continue. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KN1 168 Posted March 29, 2017 Nicklas will be using the @gerhardengines on bike no1 @KLSpeedway this season. Very impressed with his timed laps at Lynn this week. Probably as in Douglas at sunny the chairman and his vice need someone them. Have they bought them I wonder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites