PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted August 29, 2015 4 points from 2 heats for Harris on GTR. Going smooth and fast. Allowed him to do some mistakes and even then he was able to take second place on the second heat. ..and messes rest of the meeting with poor lines. I hope someone else gets a chance with Marcel´s engine. THEY will quite soon .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Countershaftcounter 360 Posted August 30, 2015 Be nice to see some offered to young up and coming riders too to try out, after all, they are the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted August 30, 2015 Be nice to see some offered to young up and coming riders too to try out, after all, they are the future. Well Robert Lambert had the loan of one, what is really needed is a couple of top riders to start using them, that would soon see the demand soar. Harris (whose shortcomings were exposed last night) and the ageing Karlsson, won't persuade potential buyers but a couple of riders winning things around Europe will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted August 30, 2015 The minute you give it to a top rider, they'll have it in bits, throw half away, and modify what's left to squeeze another couple of horses out of it!! (Well, their tuner will) That's not what the project is about in my opinion.........? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted August 30, 2015 The minute you give it to a top rider, they'll have it in bits, throw half away, and modify what's left to squeeze another couple of horses out of it!! (Well, their tuner will) That's not what the project is about in my opinion.........? They won't if they are under the control of Marcel, he isn't just going to hand one over and let someone do as they wish with it, that's why they still have their own equipment alongside, It's just that Chris has created a bad reputation regarding engines and PK is on his last legs so to speak, it needs someone with more credibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted August 30, 2015 Be nice to see some offered to young up and coming riders too to try out, after all, they are the future. Yep agree, would love to see a young up & coming rider like Brady Kurtz on one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FAST GATER 853 Posted August 30, 2015 They won't if they are under the control of Marcel, he isn't just going to hand one over and let someone do as they wish with it, that's why they still have their own equipment alongside, It's just that Chris has created a bad reputation regarding engines and PK is on his last legs so to speak, it needs someone with more credibility. PK last legs wash your mouth out no IMO he is well placed still able to test and give excellent feedback a wealth of experience just a pity Tai ( would he be ceditible enough)can't get onboard rather than plugging his blood sucking tuner on the GP last night . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,143 Posted August 31, 2015 To develop an engine you need experience, and that is there with CH and PK. Once development gets to a certain stage you need top riders to show what it can do - thats if you marketing to top riders. If you marketing to PL or NL standard on the basis of lower servicing costs then go for top riders in those classes. I think it would be difficult to get the likes of Tai, Greg, Nicki on board a Gerrard engine whilst they still going for top positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser McHuge 589 Posted August 31, 2015 It depends what the engine's long term intentions are......if it aims to be a budget engine that riders can use over a season in the league without too much service and maintenance then that is not going to be an attraction to a GP rider chasing the major honours as they are never going to ride an engine like that. That's why I don't think a young rider like Robert Lambert is the way to go for the Gerhard as he is chasing his goals and really needs engines on a level playing field with the top GP guys and not a still being developed budget engine...that's surely not the target rider at present. I don't think they could have a better test rider than Peter Karlsson though, he's been there and done that and has great knowledge and should really help develop the engine on a day in day out basis and once properly tested it surely must have a future with the everyday riders racing day in day out league speedway where savings must be a major attraction .......the very top end of the sport is a different matter altogether. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted August 31, 2015 GTR are aiming both for an engine that is competitive at the highest level and also much cheaper to maintain for riders no matter where they ride. Still work being done to improve but another GP rider likely to give it a private test this week with a view to using it in the series. Chris Harris has actually been rather fortunate ... has five engines to use and no service bills as they are still being adapted by Marcel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,992 Posted August 31, 2015 Chris Harris has actually been rather fortunate ... How many times have we said that over the years............... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,370 Posted August 31, 2015 GTR are aiming both for an engine that is competitive at the highest level and also much cheaper to maintain for riders no matter where they ride. Still work being done to improve but another GP rider likely to give it a private test this week with a view to using it in the series. Chris Harris has actually been rather fortunate ... has five engines to use and no service bills as they are still being adapted by Marcel. Im surprised that Harris was chosen as test rider ,he has struggled with set ups most of his career and I can't see what his technical expertise would be . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted August 31, 2015 HE wasn't really chosen as such ... showed an interest in trying one at Prague when Gerhard and Kelvin Tatum first publicly tested the engine and it sort of went from there. Kelvin, it has to be said, wasn't keen on that arrangement progressing and has taken a step backwards, for the very reasons alluded to above, but the next rider to try one might be better able to take the project forward. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted August 31, 2015 HE wasn't really chosen as such ... showed an interest in trying one at Prague when Gerhard and Kelvin Tatum first publicly tested the engine and it sort of went from there. Kelvin, it has to be said, wasn't keen on that arrangement progressing and has taken a step backwards, for the very reasons alluded to above, but the next rider to try one might be better able to take the project forward. Is this likely to happen this year ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen chemistry 660 Posted September 1, 2015 give harris a chance fgs its still in its infant stage , from what ive seen of harris on it, the engine seems quite tractable and lively from the start but needs more straight line speed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
