tigerowl 630 Posted August 2, 2015 If any promoters are wondering why the hardcore fans are getting fed up and they are not attracting new people to the sport, then the below summary of last night's action might help. At Leicester, the home team team contained Thomas Jorgensen who rides for Berwick as a guest for Sam Masters who also rides for Edinburgh, James Sarjeant of Coventry and Glasgow as a guest for Josh Auty who also rides for Scunthorpe and Dan Greenwood of Coventry Storm as a guest for Simon Lambert who also rides for Peterborough. On the other side, Hand Andersen of Coventry guests for Andreas Jonsson, Chris Harris of Coventry guests for Kim Nilsson, Max Fricke of Belle Vue guests for Mikkel Bech and Richard Hall of Berwick guests for Ashley Birks who also rides for Sheffield. Lakeside's three non guests are Edward Kennett who also rides for Rye House, Richard Lawson who also rides for Glasgow and Adam Ellis who also rides for Birmingham. Plymouth feature a seven man side, although number one Kyle Newman also rides for Poole. Their opponents Somerset have rider replacement for Charles Wright who also rides for Swindon and also line-up with Josh Grajczonek who also rides for Belle Vue and Paul Starke who also rides for Poole. Rye House take on Newcastle without their number one Edward Kennett who is riding for Lakeside and replace him with Robert Lambert who rides for King's Lynn, or is it Peterborough? Newcastle operate rider replacement for Christian Henry who is injured and have Rafal Konopka of Peterborough and Connor Mountain of Mildenhall guesting for Simon Nielsen and Lewis Rose who was injured riding for his other team, Swindon. A full strength Workington team includes Ricky Wells who also rides for Wolverhampton, Kyle Howarth who - until a few weeks ago - also rode for Swindon and Matt Williamson who also rides for Cradley Heath. They take on Sheffield who have had a guest all season for the injured Simon Stead and usually borrow riders from their main rivals for the play-offs, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Somerset or Ipswich. Last night it was Danny King of the Witches, but he also rides for Coventry. There is rider replacement for Jason Garrity, who also rides for Coventry and was injured riding for them, with Josh Bastes, also of Wolverhampton and briefly of Birmingham, lining up at reserve. The farce continues in the cup match at Edinburgh where the Monarchs use rider replacement for the injured Sam Masters - the same Sam Masters that Leicester are using a guest for. They also include Craig Cook, also of Belle Vue, Max Clegg, also of Cradley Heath and Robert Branford who also rides for the Rye House Raiders. The Bears have Aaron Summers of Glasgow guesting for the injured Lasse Bjerre and have rider replacement for Stuart Robson, who was injured riding for his other club, Coventry. There are also guests at reserve where Liam Carr of Buxton and Rob Shuttleworth of Coventry Storm replace the injured Jan Graversen and Adam Roynon who was hurt whilst guesting for Arena-Essex the other day. The night is concluded by the relative normality of the National League Cup fixture between Eastbourne and Kent, although the Eagles have rider replacement for Georgie Wood and Martin Knuckey of Coventry Storm guests for Richard Andrews. Poor old Niall Strudwick, the Eagles number 8, can't get a ride despite his team being 14 points up from the away leg. Kent, meanwhile, are the only team of the 12 in action tonight to put out a full seven where none of the side are doubling up or doubling down. However, this would have been different a couple of days earlier had not Ben Morley lost his team place at Redcar. Is everyone enjoying their speedway? 26 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,355 Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) To paraphrase and apologies to 'The Drifters'.... Saturday Night At The Speedway.. Who Cares What Riders You'll See... The Way The Sport Is Run These Days.. Will P1ss You Off Inevitably........... Edited August 2, 2015 by mikebv 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) In supporting British speedway and the farcical teams set-ups as described, it make one feel that they are on a long lonely road but with an inevitable end in sight! Edited August 2, 2015 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndBender 28 Posted August 2, 2015 If any promoters are wondering why the hardcore fans are getting fed up and they are not attracting new people to the sport, then the below summary of last night's action might help. At Leicester, the home team team contained Thomas Jorgensen who rides for Berwick as a guest for Sam Masters who also rides for Edinburgh, James Sarjeant of Coventry and Glasgow as a guest for Josh Auty who also rides for Scunthorpe and Dan Greenwood of Coventry Storm as a guest for Simon Lambert who also rides for Peterborough. On the other side, Hand Andersen of Coventry guests for Andreas Jonsson, Chris Harris of Coventry guests for Kim Nilsson, Max Fricke of Belle Vue guests for Mikkel Bech and Richard Hall of Berwick guests for Ashley Birks who also rides for Sheffield. Lakeside's three non guests are Edward Kennett who also rides for Rye House, Richard Lawson who also rides for Glasgow and Adam Ellis who also rides for Birmingham. Plymouth feature a seven man side, although number one Kyle Newman also rides for Poole. Their opponents Somerset have rider replacement for Charles Wright who also rides for Swindon and also line-up with Josh Grajczonek who also rides for Belle Vue and Paul Starke who also rides for Poole. Rye House take on Newcastle without their number one Edward Kennett who is riding for Lakeside and replace him with Robert Lambert who rides for King's Lynn, or is it Peterborough? Newcastle operate rider replacement for Christian Henry who is injured and have Rafal Konopka of Peterborough and Connor Mountain of Mildenhall guesting for Simon Nielsen and Lewis Rose who was injured riding for his other team, Swindon. A full strength Workington team includes Ricky Wells who also rides for Wolverhampton, Kyle Howarth who - until a few weeks ago - also rode for Swindon and Matt Williamson who also rides for Cradley Heath. They take on Sheffield who have had a guest all season for the injured Simon Stead and usually borrow riders from their main rivals for the play-offs, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Somerset or Ipswich. Last night it was Danny King of the Witches, but he also rides for Coventry. There is rider replacement for Jason Garrity, who also rides for Coventry and was injured riding for them, with Josh Bastes, also of Wolverhampton and briefly of Birmingham, lining up at reserve. The farce continues in the cup match at Edinburgh where the Monarchs use rider replacement for the injured Sam Masters - the same Sam Masters that Leicester are using a guest for. They also include Craig Cook, also of Belle Vue, Max Clegg, also of Cradley Heath and Robert Branford who also rides for the Rye House Raiders. The Bears have Aaron Summers of Glasgow guesting for the injured Lasse Bjerre and have rider replacement for Stuart Robson, who was injured riding for his other club, Coventry. There are also guests at reserve where Liam Carr of Buxton and Rob Shuttleworth of Coventry Storm replace the injured Jan Graversen and Adam Roynon who was hurt whilst guesting for Arena-Essex the other day. The night is concluded by the relative normality of the National League Cup fixture between Eastbourne and Kent, although the Eagles have rider replacement for Georgie Wood and Martin Knuckey of Coventry Storm guests for Richard Andrews. Poor old Niall Strudwick, the Eagles number 8, can't get a ride despite his team being 14 points up from the away leg. Kent, meanwhile, are the only team of the 12 in action tonight to put out a full seven where none of the side are doubling up or doubling down. However, this would have been different a couple of days earlier had not Ben Morley lost his team place at Redcar. Is everyone enjoying their speedway? Great post....and one of the main reasons why when you try to 'sell' Speedway to friends and workmates, their eyes just glaze over and they go back to talking about their ball games! Either that or they burst out in incredulous laughter. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted August 2, 2015 Saturday night speedway, has a young lad, long lost memories at Dudley Wood every Saturday. those were the days 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted August 2, 2015 If any promoters are wondering why the hardcore fans are getting fed up and they are not attracting new people to the sport, then the below summary of last night's action might help. At Leicester, the home team team contained Thomas Jorgensen who rides for Berwick as a guest for Sam Masters who also rides for Edinburgh, James Sarjeant of Coventry and Glasgow as a guest for Josh Auty who also rides for Scunthorpe and Dan Greenwood of Coventry Storm as a guest for Simon Lambert who also rides for Peterborough. On the other side, Hand Andersen of Coventry guests for Andreas Jonsson, Chris Harris of Coventry guests for Kim Nilsson, Max Fricke of Belle Vue guests for Mikkel Bech and Richard Hall of Berwick guests for Ashley Birks who also rides for Sheffield. Lakeside's three non guests are Edward Kennett who also rides for Rye House, Richard Lawson who also rides for Glasgow and Adam Ellis who also rides for Birmingham. Plymouth feature a seven man side, although number one Kyle Newman also rides for Poole. Their opponents Somerset have rider replacement for Charles Wright who also rides for Swindon and also line-up with Josh Grajczonek who also rides for Belle Vue and Paul Starke who also rides for Poole. Rye House take on Newcastle without their number one Edward Kennett who is riding for Lakeside and replace him with Robert Lambert who rides for King's Lynn, or is it Peterborough? Newcastle operate rider replacement for Christian Henry who is injured and have Rafal Konopka of Peterborough and Connor Mountain of Mildenhall guesting for Simon Nielsen and Lewis Rose who was injured riding for his other team, Swindon. A full strength Workington team includes Ricky Wells who also rides for Wolverhampton, Kyle Howarth who - until a few weeks ago - also rode for Swindon and Matt Williamson who also rides for Cradley Heath. They take on Sheffield who have had a guest all season for the injured Simon Stead and usually borrow riders from their main rivals for the play-offs, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Somerset or Ipswich. Last night it was Danny King of the Witches, but he also rides for Coventry. There is rider replacement for Jason Garrity, who also rides for Coventry and was injured riding for them, with Josh Bastes, also of Wolverhampton and briefly of Birmingham, lining up at reserve. The farce continues in the cup match at Edinburgh where the Monarchs use rider replacement for the injured Sam Masters - the same Sam Masters that Leicester are using a guest for. They also include Craig Cook, also of Belle Vue, Max Clegg, also of Cradley Heath and Robert Branford who also rides for the Rye House Raiders. The Bears have Aaron Summers of Glasgow guesting for the injured Lasse Bjerre and have rider replacement for Stuart Robson, who was injured riding for his other club, Coventry. There are also guests at reserve where Liam Carr of Buxton and Rob Shuttleworth of Coventry Storm replace the injured Jan Graversen and Adam Roynon who was hurt whilst guesting for Arena-Essex the other day. The night is concluded by the relative normality of the National League Cup fixture between Eastbourne and Kent, although the Eagles have rider replacement for Georgie Wood and Martin Knuckey of Coventry Storm guests for Richard Andrews. Poor old Niall Strudwick, the Eagles number 8, can't get a ride despite his team being 14 points up from the away leg. Kent, meanwhile, are the only team of the 12 in action tonight to put out a full seven where none of the side are doubling up or doubling down. However, this would have been different a couple of days earlier had not Ben Morley lost his team place at Redcar. Is everyone enjoying their speedway? YES, what else do you suggest to cover injuries then? Cancel meetings til everyone is OK? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted August 2, 2015 When you look at the Leicester V Lakeside meeting last night though, out of the 7 riders missing only one was due to a fixture clash. Sadly they other 6 were all injured which is beyond the clubs control & unfortunately then means guests. Guests for injured riders is acceptable. It's lots of guests for fixture clashes that isn't, esp when for some riders like Krcmar on Friday, the meeting he was missing Swindon for wasn't even until Sat evening! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truro Robin 39 Posted August 2, 2015 If any promoters are wondering why the hardcore fans are getting fed up and they are not attracting new people to the sport, then the below summary of last night's action might help. At Leicester, the home team team contained Thomas Jorgensen who rides for Berwick as a guest for Sam Masters who also rides for Edinburgh, James Sarjeant of Coventry and Glasgow as a guest for Josh Auty who also rides for Scunthorpe and Dan Greenwood of Coventry Storm as a guest for Simon Lambert who also rides for Peterborough. On the other side, Hand Andersen of Coventry guests for Andreas Jonsson, Chris Harris of Coventry guests for Kim Nilsson, Max Fricke of Belle Vue guests for Mikkel Bech and Richard Hall of Berwick guests for Ashley Birks who also rides for Sheffield. Lakeside's three non guests are Edward Kennett who also rides for Rye House, Richard Lawson who also rides for Glasgow and Adam Ellis who also rides for Birmingham. Plymouth feature a seven man side, although number one Kyle Newman also rides for Poole. Their opponents Somerset have rider replacement for Charles Wright who also rides for Swindon and also line-up with Josh Grajczonek who also rides for Belle Vue and Paul Starke who also rides for Poole. Rye House take on Newcastle without their number one Edward Kennett who is riding for Lakeside and replace him with Robert Lambert who rides for King's Lynn, or is it Peterborough? Newcastle operate rider replacement for Christian Henry who is injured and have Rafal Konopka of Peterborough and Connor Mountain of Mildenhall guesting for Simon Nielsen and Lewis Rose who was injured riding for his other team, Swindon. A full strength Workington team includes Ricky Wells who also rides for Wolverhampton, Kyle Howarth who - until a few weeks ago - also rode for Swindon and Matt Williamson who also rides for Cradley Heath. They take on Sheffield who have had a guest all season for the injured Simon Stead and usually borrow riders from their main rivals for the play-offs, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Somerset or Ipswich. Last night it was Danny King of the Witches, but he also rides for Coventry. There is rider replacement for Jason Garrity, who also rides for Coventry and was injured riding for them, with Josh Bastes, also of Wolverhampton and briefly of Birmingham, lining up at reserve. The farce continues in the cup match at Edinburgh where the Monarchs use rider replacement for the injured Sam Masters - the same Sam Masters that Leicester are using a guest for. They also include Craig Cook, also of Belle Vue, Max Clegg, also of Cradley Heath and Robert Branford who also rides for the Rye House Raiders. The Bears have Aaron Summers of Glasgow guesting for the injured Lasse Bjerre and have rider replacement for Stuart Robson, who was injured riding for his other club, Coventry. There are also guests at reserve where Liam Carr of Buxton and Rob Shuttleworth of Coventry Storm replace the injured Jan Graversen and Adam Roynon who was hurt whilst guesting for Arena-Essex the other day. The night is concluded by the relative normality of the National League Cup fixture between Eastbourne and Kent, although the Eagles have rider replacement for Georgie Wood and Martin Knuckey of Coventry Storm guests for Richard Andrews. Poor old Niall Strudwick, the Eagles number 8, can't get a ride despite his team being 14 points up from the away leg. Kent, meanwhile, are the only team of the 12 in action tonight to put out a full seven where none of the side are doubling up or doubling down. However, this would have been different a couple of days earlier had not Ben Morley lost his team place at Redcar. Is everyone enjoying their speedway? Great post. I think most fans accept guests for injured riders as a necessary evil but doubling up, fast track reserves and riders missing meeting due to overseas commitments is making team speedway farcical. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted August 2, 2015 YES, what else do you suggest to cover injuries then? Cancel meetings til everyone is OK? If you're going to have half of every team riding in more than one league, common sense would suggest you arrange for the leagues to be run on different nights? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) If any promoters are wondering why the hardcore fans are getting fed up and they are not attracting new people to the sport, then the below summary of last night's action might help. At Leicester, the home team team contained Thomas Jorgensen who rides for Berwick as a guest for Sam Masters who also rides for Edinburgh, James Sarjeant of Coventry and Glasgow as a guest for Josh Auty who also rides for Scunthorpe and Dan Greenwood of Coventry Storm as a guest for Simon Lambert who also rides for Peterborough. On the other side, Hand Andersen of Coventry guests for Andreas Jonsson, Chris Harris of Coventry guests for Kim Nilsson, Max Fricke of Belle Vue guests for Mikkel Bech and Richard Hall of Berwick guests for Ashley Birks who also rides for Sheffield. Lakeside's three non guests are Edward Kennett who also rides for Rye House, Richard Lawson who also rides for Glasgow and Adam Ellis who also rides for Birmingham. Plymouth feature a seven man side, although number one Kyle Newman also rides for Poole. Their opponents Somerset have rider replacement for Charles Wright who also rides for Swindon and also line-up with Josh Grajczonek who also rides for Belle Vue and Paul Starke who also rides for Poole. Rye House take on Newcastle without their number one Edward Kennett who is riding for Lakeside and replace him with Robert Lambert who rides for King's Lynn, or is it Peterborough? Newcastle operate rider replacement for Christian Henry who is injured and have Rafal Konopka of Peterborough and Connor Mountain of Mildenhall guesting for Simon Nielsen and Lewis Rose who was injured riding for his other team, Swindon. A full strength Workington team includes Ricky Wells who also rides for Wolverhampton, Kyle Howarth who - until a few weeks ago - also rode for Swindon and Matt Williamson who also rides for Cradley Heath. They take on Sheffield who have had a guest all season for the injured Simon Stead and usually borrow riders from their main rivals for the play-offs, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Somerset or Ipswich. Last night it was Danny King of the Witches, but he also rides for Coventry. There is rider replacement for Jason Garrity, who also rides for Coventry and was injured riding for them, with Josh Bastes, also of Wolverhampton and briefly of Birmingham, lining up at reserve. The farce continues in the cup match at Edinburgh where the Monarchs use rider replacement for the injured Sam Masters - the same Sam Masters that Leicester are using a guest for. They also include Craig Cook, also of Belle Vue, Max Clegg, also of Cradley Heath and Robert Branford who also rides for the Rye House Raiders. The Bears have Aaron Summers of Glasgow guesting for the injured Lasse Bjerre and have rider replacement for Stuart Robson, who was injured riding for his other club, Coventry. There are also guests at reserve where Liam Carr of Buxton and Rob Shuttleworth of Coventry Storm replace the injured Jan Graversen and Adam Roynon who was hurt whilst guesting for Arena-Essex the other day. The night is concluded by the relative normality of the National League Cup fixture between Eastbourne and Kent, although the Eagles have rider replacement for Georgie Wood and Martin Knuckey of Coventry Storm guests for Richard Andrews. Poor old Niall Strudwick, the Eagles number 8, can't get a ride despite his team being 14 points up from the away leg. Kent, meanwhile, are the only team of the 12 in action tonight to put out a full seven where none of the side are doubling up or doubling down. However, this would have been different a couple of days earlier had not Ben Morley lost his team place at Redcar. Is everyone enjoying their speedway? great post When you look at the Leicester V Lakeside meeting last night though, out of the 7 riders missing only one was due to a fixture clash. Sadly they other 6 were all injured which is beyond the clubs control & unfortunately then means guests. Guests for injured riders is acceptable. It's lots of guests for fixture clashes that isn't, esp when for some riders like Krcmar on Friday, the meeting he was missing Swindon for wasn't even until Sat evening! were the other 6 injured riding for Leicester or Lakeside though?? Its hard being a promoter though, yet they run the sport, they set the rules and most importantly..... They created this mess in this country. Edited August 2, 2015 by Arson fire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) If you're going to have half of every team riding in more than one league, common sense would suggest you arrange for the leagues to be run on different nights? How would you arrange that when most promotions ae only tenants at stadiums which have other uses? Edited August 2, 2015 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,621 Posted August 2, 2015 Yet again another moan about guests but If any promoters are wondering why the hardcore fans are getting fed up and they are not attracting new people to the sport, then the below summary of last night's action might help. At Leicester, the home team team contained Thomas Jorgensen who rides for Berwick as a guest for Sam Masters who also rides for Edinburgh, James Sarjeant of Coventry and Glasgow as a guest for Josh Auty who also rides for Scunthorpe and Dan Greenwood of Coventry Storm as a guest for Simon Lambert who also rides for Peterborough. On the other side, Hand Andersen of Coventry guests for Andreas Jonsson, Chris Harris of Coventry guests for Kim Nilsson, Max Fricke of Belle Vue guests for Mikkel Bech and Richard Hall of Berwick guests for Ashley Birks who also rides for Sheffield. Lakeside's three non guests are Edward Kennett who also rides for Rye House, Richard Lawson who also rides for Glasgow and Adam Ellis who also rides for Birmingham. Plymouth feature a seven man side, although number one Kyle Newman also rides for Poole. Their opponents Somerset have rider replacement for Charles Wright who also rides for Swindon and also line-up with Josh Grajczonek who also rides for Belle Vue and Paul Starke who also rides for Poole. Rye House take on Newcastle without their number one Edward Kennett who is riding for Lakeside and replace him with Robert Lambert who rides for King's Lynn, or is it Peterborough? Newcastle operate rider replacement for Christian Henry who is injured and have Rafal Konopka of Peterborough and Connor Mountain of Mildenhall guesting for Simon Nielsen and Lewis Rose who was injured riding for his other team, Swindon. A full strength Workington team includes Ricky Wells who also rides for Wolverhampton, Kyle Howarth who - until a few weeks ago - also rode for Swindon and Matt Williamson who also rides for Cradley Heath. They take on Sheffield who have had a guest all season for the injured Simon Stead and usually borrow riders from their main rivals for the play-offs, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Somerset or Ipswich. Last night it was Danny King of the Witches, but he also rides for Coventry. There is rider replacement for Jason Garrity, who also rides for Coventry and was injured riding for them, with Josh Bastes, also of Wolverhampton and briefly of Birmingham, lining up at reserve. The farce continues in the cup match at Edinburgh where the Monarchs use rider replacement for the injured Sam Masters - the same Sam Masters that Leicester are using a guest for. They also include Craig Cook, also of Belle Vue, Max Clegg, also of Cradley Heath and Robert Branford who also rides for the Rye House Raiders. The Bears have Aaron Summers of Glasgow guesting for the injured Lasse Bjerre and have rider replacement for Stuart Robson, who was injured riding for his other club, Coventry. There are also guests at reserve where Liam Carr of Buxton and Rob Shuttleworth of Coventry Storm replace the injured Jan Graversen and Adam Roynon who was hurt whilst guesting for Arena-Essex the other day. The night is concluded by the relative normality of the National League Cup fixture between Eastbourne and Kent, although the Eagles have rider replacement for Georgie Wood and Martin Knuckey of Coventry Storm guests for Richard Andrews. Poor old Niall Strudwick, the Eagles number 8, can't get a ride despite his team being 14 points up from the away leg. Kent, meanwhile, are the only team of the 12 in action tonight to put out a full seven where none of the side are doubling up or doubling down. However, this would have been different a couple of days earlier had not Ben Morley lost his team place at Redcar. Is everyone enjoying their speedway? So what do suggest instead ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted August 2, 2015 How would you arrange that when most promotions ae only tenants at stadiums which have other uses? I find it hard to believe that given the choice of say three nights, most clubs wouldn't be able to accommodate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) If you're going to have half of every team riding in more than one league, common sense would suggest you arrange for the leagues to be run on different nights? How would you arrange that when most promotions ae only tenants at stadiums which have other uses? I find it hard to believe that given the choice of say three nights, most clubs wouldn't be able to accommodate it. It may not be possible at some stadiums because of their local staffing arrangements even if there are vacant nights at the venues. How would you overcome that? Edited August 2, 2015 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted August 2, 2015 At least all eight Elite League tracks had a home meeting last week... how often does that happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
