spin king 1,927 Posted May 19, 2016 The clever thing to do is to replace him when he's on a 7 and before the 3 ave is applied. Later on you might be able to reintroduce him on the 3, if the MC allow you. Is that referred to in the trade as a Monarch move? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,744 Posted May 19, 2016 Even so, signing a 7 point rider and sacking him when he acheives a 3.00 average is baffling But then i dont see much in him personally, he cant be that good to drop to 3.00 can he? and if he is that good, whats to stop say Berwick signing him to replace bager? And him averaging between 5-6? What have scunny gained out of that, or is he even their asset? Youll defend it as its your club, but to the outsider its confusing unless Scunny have jusy realised hes crap, cut their losses and got on with it. Kings lynn rating him means very little, afterall their the club who brought the likes of kolenko, stange, wallace, jan jaros etc to this country. mate the way Holub rode around Berwick makes Bager out to be a solid heatleader, I think Berwick's mechanics aka John Morrison, Alan Ferrow, Jamie Robertson, Gary Flint and our TM Scott Courtney could of all beaten Holub... comfortably 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thebaron 434 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) mate the way Holub rode around Berwick makes Bager out to be a solid heatleader, I think Berwick's mechanics aka John Morrison, Alan Ferrow, Jamie Robertson, Gary Flint and our TM Scott Courtney could of all beaten Holub... comfortably Come on give the lad a break; at Berwick he was only just back from injury. Trust me the one place you dont want to have to go first back after injury is Shielfield Park ! Long narrow bumpy straights into tight corners with a collarbone healing ooch!. Unforgiving track. Edited May 19, 2016 by the outsider 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,076 Posted May 19, 2016 mate the way Holub rode around Berwick makes Bager out to be a solid heatleader, I think Berwick's mechanics aka John Morrison, Alan Ferrow, Jamie Robertson, Gary Flint and our TM Scott Courtney could of all beaten Holub... comfortably And on a mountain bike. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,744 Posted May 19, 2016 Come on give the lad a break; at Berwick he was only just back from injury. Trust me the one place you dont want to have to go first back after injury is Shielfield Park ! Long narrow bumpy straights into tight corners with a collarbone healing ooch!. Unforgiving track.It was Josh Bailey's first time there as well, a lot younger and A LOT more inexperienced but managed to get to grip within a lap and comfortably bet Holub, funnily enough, by the length of a 'long narrow bumpy straight' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thebaron 434 Posted May 19, 2016 It was Josh Bailey's first time there as well, a lot younger and A LOT more inexperienced but managed to get to grip within a lap and comfortably bet Holub, funnily enough, by the length of a 'long narrow bumpy straight' Agreed Little Josh coping well with tracks for the first time; and yes finishing ahead of Holub there; but again Holub is still recovering from his injury. But it is all conjecture now because the changes have been made; and I am sure they are the right ones at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
To The Point 356 Posted May 20, 2016 mate the way Holub rode around Berwick makes Bager out to be a solid heatleader, I think Berwick's mechanics aka John Morrison, Alan Ferrow, Jamie Robertson, Gary Flint and our TM Scott Courtney could of all beaten Holub... comfortably The answer, find out what the problem is with Holub, sort it out and help him. He has the potential, have seen him ride some very good meetings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted May 20, 2016 It was Josh Bailey's first time there as well, a lot younger and A LOT more inexperienced but managed to get to grip within a lap and comfortably bet Holub, funnily enough, by the length of a 'long narrow bumpy straight' Holub is 20 and Bailey is 18/19??? PLUS, Bailey might have ridden at Berwick at like a practice? Where Holub is half way around the world? I think he needs to be given a chance, yeah he's not a 7 pointer yet, but he's only 20, and he needs time to develop, especially if he's only just came back from injury Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,744 Posted May 21, 2016 Holub is 20 and Bailey is 18/19??? PLUS, Bailey might have ridden at Berwick at like a practice? Where Holub is half way around the world? I think he needs to be given a chance, yeah he's not a 7 pointer yet, but he's only 20, and he needs time to develop, especially if he's only just came back from injury It was first time for both, half way around the world? He's from Czech and is one of the best riders in the country, representing the said country in World Under 21 qualifiers, ie yesterday and has rode in plenty of big meetings. I know that he was recovering from an injury but you have to wonder why he was riding because he was so far off the pace? Scunny trying to get the 4h 4a quickly so they could 'make changes' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted May 21, 2016 It was first time for both, half way around the world? He's from Czech and is one of the best riders in the country, representing the said country in World Under 21 qualifiers, ie yesterday and has rode in plenty of big meetings. I know that he was recovering from an injury but you have to wonder why he was riding because he was so far off the pace? Scunny trying to get the 4h 4a quickly so they could 'make changes' Well Czech Republic, other side of Europe, non English speaking, culture is completely different, it's not like he's even used to being in the country, the setting will be completely different, just look at Miedzinski in England compared to Poland as an example Yes, he's representing his country, so he MUST be good, just needs a little time, he's only really young Lots of riders try to rush back from injury while it's too early because at the end of the day if they're not riding, they're not scoring points, and if they're not scoring points, they're not getting payed, and speedway if far too expensive to not get payed, I mean yeah, he should have waited until he was better, but try telling that to him once he got his helmet on and a chance to ride, they're adrenaline junkies and they want payed!! Also the 4h 4a theory is probably true too, since they've now dropped him, but I feel only to get Wilkinson to reserve I could stick up for Zdenek all day 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Johnson 285 Posted May 21, 2016 Hope he gets a place somewhere soon, he really is a good lad, ,his away points may not be too good, but as pointed out , hes not been everywhere yet and i dont think he had Topinka over here this year, i believe he was due soon, i know other team mates could help him with set ups etc, but you need someone in your corner, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
romans lovechild 143 Posted May 21, 2016 all this debating about holub, i found it strange how these people rated the guy, never impressed me and has proved so far that he is not good enough for the premier league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,484 Posted May 21, 2016 Would he beat Peter karger at Rye? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,487 Posted June 1, 2016 Ben barker please mr Godfrey 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterborough daz 220 Posted June 1, 2016 Holub is a panther Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
