lisa-colette 6,035 Posted September 13, 2016 I don't think Middlo is Hans' biggest fan tbh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) something not right . middlo said last nite hans still waiting for op and looks like he,s done for this season. but hans had an op on the 10th . middlo wud know this as he,s usually on twitter a lot.is it his way of lettin hans know matts plans Middlo said in the paper he is very doubtful for the playoffs after undergoing hand surgery. Edited September 13, 2016 by foreverblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,824 Posted September 13, 2016 Middlo said in the paper he will miss the playoffs after undergoing hand surgery. You can't say he is injured and the rider himself says he is fit to ride tho. Woffy, and Wolves were upfront about reasons why he missed meetings even tho i didn't agree with them. Middlo and Hans seem to have very different agendas! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.V 72 1,054 Posted September 13, 2016 7.00 although I believe they used his previous time with Poole as a bench mark too. Piotr was a young kid still riding in reserve in Poland when he rode for Wolves in 2014. Dudek is an established rider in all other leagues and it used to be 8.00 assessed rider if I remember correct. That seems fair, like I said previously anything less than 7.50 is just plain wrong as he clearly is good enough to warrant that sort of assessment. Dudek IS a GP rider, as he has already qualified Steve let them have him on a 7.The way to look at it is you got woffie on a 7.03 ave based on a p poor season 2 years ago when he way under performed and did not want to be there and could not be bothered and ended up with a false p/poor average.When today he is clearly good enougth to warrent an 8 as a GP rider but he is not he is a 7.03.So looking at it from that point of view and just based on their ability today Woffie is slightly better so if he is worth a 7.03 average Dudek is on a 7 anything more is just plain wrong and not keeping within the fair rules of the play offs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,824 Posted September 13, 2016 Steve let them have him on a 7.The way to look at it is you got woffie on a 7.03 ave based on a p poor season 2 years ago when he way under performed and did not want to be there and could not be bothered and ended up with a false p/poor average.When today he is clearly good enougth to warrent an 8 as a GP rider but he is not he is a 7.03.So looking at it from that point of view and just based on their ability today Woffie is slightly better so if he is worth a 7.03 average Dudek is on a 7 anything more is just plain wrong and not keeping within the fair rules of the play offs. One earned from a shocking bad season but earned. Tai is riding at 8.41 this season which is a truer reflection. You can only judge a new rider within the rules. 8 for an established Swedish/Polish heat leader it used to be or GP rider. Seems fair enough! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen chemistry 660 Posted September 14, 2016 emil came in on assessd 8 . i think it only resonably fair dudek shud be 8 . his form in poland and sweden hes averaging over 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted September 14, 2016 emil came in on assessd 8 . i think it only resonably fair dudek shud be 8 . his form in poland and sweden hes averaging over 8 He better be a 9 over here then being the easier league .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted September 14, 2016 something not right . middlo said last nite hans still waiting for op and looks like he,s done for this season. but hans had an op on the 10th . middlo wud know this as he,s usually on twitter a lot.is it his way of lettin hans know matts plans We saw the same thing happen last year when North was scoring 0,0,0 and suddenly he was unable to ride due to his dad having a hand injury although it wasn't bad enough for him to return home. Meant they got to use Kennett instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,963 Posted September 14, 2016 Poole to use no guest in the play offs, now when was the last time that happened? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted September 14, 2016 Personally happy to have Shamek back riding well average fits. Middlo actually said in paper they have someone in mind if Hans isnt fit to return after his op. Personally would prefer not to use guests. I expect it depends on who we get in the semi final which may not be resolved until friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted September 14, 2016 Rode ok in gp recently but could be a risk, rather have King. King's average is likely to be too high to guest by the time new averages are released again in 2 weeks. Hans average is 7.15. On rolling averages after Monday's wolves meeting King's is 7.33 and he still has a home meeting on Friday to come which could increase it more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyabb17 1,077 Posted September 14, 2016 Poole were proved right though, Dak hasn't returned to the UK this season due to his Father's injuries so please stop spouting off. We saw the same thing happen last year when North was scoring 0,0,0 and suddenly he was unable to ride due to his dad having a hand injury although it wasn't bad enough for him to return home. Meant they got to use Kennett instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris4gillian 1,832 Posted September 14, 2016 I don't think Middlo is Hans' biggest fan tbh. No he isn't...the 2004 SWC thing is the reason for that. At the time I recall Middlo (the then Team GB Manager) saying Hans would never ride for Poole again (or words to that effect) after his lift on the back straight gifting Sweden the win ahead of GB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABS 231 Posted September 14, 2016 Wonder what happens if Hans refuses to see a medic and get a sick note? I'd assume Poole would be forced to go with him in the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted September 14, 2016 Wonder what happens if Hans refuses to see a medic and get a sick note? I'd assume Poole would be forced to go with him in the team.Yep, so he better get a max! Tbh if Hans is fit enough to ride then he should ride. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites