DunRobin 465 Posted June 14, 2017 I reckon riders who haven't ridden 4H / 4A should be re-assessed and given a mean average of their true average for matches ridden and their starting average applied to the non matches ridden .... eg : Zengota Ridden 2 matches - 9 Rides / 11 points scored = 4.89 Non Ridden 6 Matches - 24 Rides / 65 (65.46) assumed points scored = 10.91 as per starting average Assumed Total - 33 Rides / 76 points scored = 9.20 Kasprzak Ridden 4 matches - 18 rides / 29 points scored = 6.44 Non Ridden 4 matches - 16 Rides / 44 (44.32) assumed points scored - 11.08 as per starting average Assumed Total - 34 Rides / 73 points scored = 8.59 AND SO ON ...... Make any sense ? Must go an lie down now ..... Agree that this makes sense but the BSPA didn't see any logic & did not put it in the rules. As the rule is written if Poole let Zengi go now, any side could re-declare & get a new average for him based on 2 rides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted June 14, 2017 Does anyone know what the team limits are for the revised average figures, is it 40 or 42? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted June 14, 2017 I reckon riders who haven't ridden 4H / 4A should be re-assessed and given a mean average of their true average for matches ridden and their starting average applied to the non matches ridden .... eg : Zengota Ridden 2 matches - 9 Rides / 11 points scored = 4.89 Non Ridden 6 Matches - 24 Rides / 65 (65.46) assumed points scored = 10.91 as per starting average Assumed Total - 33 Rides / 76 points scored = 9.20 Kasprzak Ridden 4 matches - 18 rides / 29 points scored = 6.44 Non Ridden 4 matches - 16 Rides / 44 (44.32) assumed points scored - 11.08 as per starting average Assumed Total - 34 Rides / 73 points scored = 8.59 AND SO ON ...... Make any sense ? Must go an lie down now ..... Thats totally illogical and arbitrary. You may as well make up an average as have that figure from a statistical POV. The answer is to take last years average, multiply it by 1.4, divide by 50 and multiply by 42 (1.4 being the figure the BSPA used, 50 being the start points limit and 42 being break even) that would give KK an average of 9.31 and Zengotta would be a little lower on 9.16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted June 14, 2017 The whole thing is a shambles. Anyone with half a brain could see the issues for each of the last 4 seasons, and each season the bspa surpass themselves with their ineptitude. The only positive is that after this season everyone should have a "normal" average. Can anyone else see Poole redecorating with a side where kk is a 6.5, zengota a 4.9 Newman a 3.5 and a rider like lindback on a 7? Does anyone know what the team limits are for the revised average figures, is it 40 or 42? 42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted June 14, 2017 The whole thing is a shambles. Anyone with half a brain could see the issues for each of the last 4 seasons, and each season the bspa surpass themselves with their ineptitude. The only positive is that after this season everyone should have a "normal" average. Can anyone else see Poole redecorating with a side where kk is a 6.5, zengota a 4.9 Newman a 3.5 and a rider like lindback on a 7? 42 Thanks, in that case we can fit Rohan in after tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HagueyUK 76 Posted June 14, 2017 Anyone interested in watching Adam and Zach racing in the Wimborne Grasstrack solo's class last week, click the link below to watch the official free coverage of the meeting. https://www.speedwayportal.com/european-500cc-sidecar-semi-final Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 14, 2017 Thanks, in that case we can fit Rohan in after tomorrow What a shambles ORLOV " be a good move to get Rohan back thought Belle Vue might do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruno 1,793 Posted June 15, 2017 Coming down after for tonight's meeting, is the car park still in use as usual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted June 15, 2017 Coming down after for tonight's meeting, is the car park still in use as usual Yes, a bit smaller than it used to be but parking should be ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keef robin 551 Posted June 15, 2017 Would get there by 7, should be decent crowd tonight. The Abbey looks almost empty at 7.20 then hundreds pour in between then and 7.30. GO ROBINS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,658 Posted June 15, 2017 The whole thing is a shambles. Anyone with half a brain could see the issues for each of the last 4 seasons, and each season the bspa surpass themselves with their ineptitude. The only positive is that after this season everyone should have a "normal" average. Can anyone else see Poole redecorating with a side where kk is a 6.5, zengota a 4.9 Newman a 3.5 and a rider like lindback on a 7? 42 Oh autocorrect! A nice shade of lilac with some plum coloured cushions perhaps? And obviously I agree with your/SCBs analysis on the averages. What's really shocking is we are less than 7 weeks away from the LAST date for changes and we still don't know what averages to apply to these riders 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted June 15, 2017 Fans need to attend tonight as apart from a Sprockets meeting next thurs there is two week break followed by another two week break for the team after tonight. Anyone who did not go to the Sprockets meeting might want to go to the next one as they missed a good meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dump that clutch 630 Posted June 15, 2017 talk about a dis-jointed season.. really hacked off with this at the moment... no wonder riders are struggling with consistency. Cock-up, pi$$ up in a brewery springs to mind regarding the relevant people in charge. There will be longer breaks A ORLOV with fans saying enough is enough. The only carrot being dangled for everyone is the 'hearsay' new stadium just round the corner. I reckon they'll be a new chippy and bookie where the 1st corner is soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted June 15, 2017 talk about a dis-jointed season.. really hacked off with this at the moment... no wonder riders are struggling with consistency. Cock-up, pi$$ up in a brewery springs to mind regarding the relevant people in charge. There will be longer breaks A ORLOV with fans saying enough is enough. The only carrot being dangled for everyone is the 'hearsay' new stadium just round the corner. I reckon they'll be a new chippy and bookie where the 1st corner is soon What is really stupid is that we have all these long breaks now yet in July and Aug we have 15 meetings, if we have bad weather in those months it will be chaos. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites