Fromafar 10,449 Posted October 12, 2016 They need to make a living from it because during the season it's hard to find time to hold down a full time job while taking time off to travel to meetings, do the meetings and then there is the bike washes/bike prep after, some national league riders have jobs and then have to miss meetings due to work commitments then they get guests in for them, but then you get fans complaining about teams using guests, you can't please everybody, people don't realise how busy it is for riders/mechanics during the season, it's not like a spectator where they just turn up at home meetings every week or the odd away meeting now and then. Riders work during the winter to set up for the next season then when the season starts, most riders quit the job and rely on speedway to make it through the speedway seasonThe point being it is a sport they don't need to do it if they can't make a living out of it do the full time job as the majority of the fans do.!! Promoters and riders don't want to divulge their income and expenditure which is their prerogative but no good complaining if they are losing money.Speedway fans have keep many clubs running in the last few seasons with donations from their hard earned money(working full time ). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrMungo 708 Posted October 12, 2016 And that sums it up cookie. Most modern day employers and contracts won't allow the random time off for speedway as I have said on this subject before, most employers want/prefer you to have your time off in blocks i.e week/weeks etc. I know of one rider, who you know well, who had his contract terminated (ie, sacked), because he had to go to a presentation evening, and due to the distances involved was not able to go into work. Speedway and 'regular' work just does not work well together. The best a rider can hope for is to be either self-employed, work temporarily in the off-season, or to work part time (or ad hoc) and hope for a supportive employer! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieIpswich 249 Posted October 12, 2016 Jenga I'm on about £10 an hour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) They need to make a living from it because during the season it's hard to find time to hold down a full time job while taking time off to travel to meetings, do the meetings and then there is the bike washes/bike prep after, some national league riders have jobs and then have to miss meetings due to work commitments then they get guests in for them, but then you get fans complaining about teams using guests, you can't please everybody, people don't realise how busy it is for riders/mechanics during the season, it's not like a spectator where they just turn up at home meetings every week or the odd away meeting now and then. Riders work during the winter to set up for the next season then when the season starts, most riders quit the job and rely on speedway to make it through the speedway seasonIf you can't make it pay then give up and get a normal job, it's quite simple unfortunately. I know exactly what goes in to it, bike washing, tracvel etc. as do the riders. They choose to race, nobody is forcing them to. If you look at Mr. Mungo's post detailing the rough pay scale every point scored by a three point reserve costs almost the same as three adult entry fees at most tracks. That shows why teams are struggling financially and why things need to change. Edited October 12, 2016 by Ben91 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted October 12, 2016 Jenga I'm on about £10 an hour ABOUT! so you dont know ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieIpswich 249 Posted October 12, 2016 give or take a fluctuating bonus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 434 Posted October 12, 2016 A PL number 1 with a decent business brain will clear 40k a season, without doubling up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandit59 1,154 Posted October 12, 2016 A PL number 1 with a decent business brain will clear 40k a season, without doubling up. Really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clambo71 136 Posted October 12, 2016 Full time speedway riders.Maybe Part time would be the answer for them!nobody is forcing them to be a speedway rider.Speedway is in a mess,pure and simple. Part time riders would still have the same costs highlighted by benR195. And remember most riders live in the south so traveling hundreds of miles on reduced money would not be an option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieIpswich 249 Posted October 12, 2016 40k a season but what are the costs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,069 Posted October 12, 2016 A PL number 1 with a decent business brain will clear 40k a season, without doubling up. If that is true then it is little wonder some clubs are in financial difficulties and living beyond their means. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clambo71 136 Posted October 12, 2016 A PL number 1 with a decent business brain will clear 40k a season, without doubling up. Absolute rubbish. A PL number 1 would need to be on £100 a point [ as rare as hens teeth] would need to score a max every meeting home and away to get anywhere near that figure and then you need to take away his costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,449 Posted October 12, 2016 Part time riders would still have the same costs highlighted by benR195. And remember most riders live in the south so traveling hundreds of miles on reduced money would not be an option.Its a sport ,if you want to do it for a living fair enough.Not seen many riders pack it in though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted October 12, 2016 Absolute rubbish. A PL number 1 would need to be on £100 a point [ as rare as hens teeth] would need to score a max every meeting home and away to get anywhere near that figure and then you need to take away his costs. Maybe that figure included sponsors money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 910 Posted October 12, 2016 Any idea what points money riders are on? Like a no.1 2nd string and reserve would be interesting to know where i work im on more than most others are on but i dont discuess it that much the same will happen with speedway riders as allready said its not that simple some riders might get part payment from club and a sponser might pay so much aswell then there is other things that could be taken into account like do they just get points money or does the club pay for accomadation or a van its very hard to say whos on the best deal and it deiffers from club to club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
