Time For Brits First. No More Aussies To Uk Speedway.

[topsoil 2,498]

I have loved watching riders like Holder, Ward, Adams,Crump, etc, learn their trade and strut their stuff in the EL. They all bought something to the sport.

 

But the situation is now changing. With Poland sticking two fingers up to the rest of the leagues out there, it's time to pull the drawbridge up and cut off Aussies from entering the British leagues on their way through to Poland.

 

British riders for British clubs from now on IMO. Let the ones that are already here remain, if they prove to be good enough. But no more young Aussies should find themselves in a team berth to the detriment of a British rider.

 

Last night at the Poole fans forum Brady Kurtz stated he was determined by next year to have a Polish league berth. Plus Sweden is my guess. So he is using Britain as a stepping stone to get to the top, where he will more than likely quit Britain or be forced to by the Poles. Why should Britain nurture Aussies to the detriment of British riders? I can't blame the rider but where is the benefit to British clubs? Once a rider has learnt his trade he is out of here.

 

How many Aussie riders have the Polish clubs brought over and trained up? A big fat ZERO.

 

So why should we now bother? It just makes no sense. You could see Matt Ford was far from happy in the comments Brady Kurtz was making. Well worth watching the periscope footage if you haven't yet.

 

Neil Vatcher stated last night there were some young British lads currently coming through with real ability. Lets use them! We don't need to bring Aussies over.

 

If Aussies want to come over they will have to use Polish clubs instead. And we know that isn't going to happen.

 

Time to stop worrying about the Aussies and look after our own. In 2 or 3 years time we could have a whole load of good Brits filling our sides. Time for it to happen.

So what about the like of Kevin Doolan at Berwick? Doesn't ride anywhere else. Does he come under the ban? A brilliant servant to Berwick and British speedway.

[stevebrum 6,824]

I've defended Woffy from day1, he was born in England to English parents and had no choice as to where he was brought up, that decision was made by his parents when he was 5.

I was lucky enough to be at the 2016 Australian GP, and in EVERY race that Woofy rode in he was announced as Australian, if he feels he is British/English then why didn't he or 1 of his pit crew correct the Australian commentators, if Harris had of been called Australian ALL the time by Australian commentators I am sure he would've corrected them, Woffy didn't, no one did and for that reason and that reason alone, I feel certain that Woffy feels in himself that he is Australian.

 

The Aussies can try claim him if they want. He lived a huge chunk of his life.

Do you really think Tai and his team were listening to any of the announcing.

Riders and teams are far to busy and mentally prepared to pay attention to what the announcer says!

in honesty that's all irrelevant. He has never ridden under the Oz flag and doubt he will.

If he does you might have it right.

He is in Oz as a GB rider during the GP's, makes no difference what the announcer says!

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

So what about the like of Kevin Doolan at Berwick? Doesn't ride anywhere else. Does he come under the ban? A brilliant servant to Berwick and British speedway.

A ban wouldn't affect riders already here. Only riders looking to come here from Australia. Lesser riders such as Doolan, Josh G, would not be affected as they are now part and parcel of the scene.

 

The riders who should be banned are the young lads hoping to come over and carve out a career. Why should they be given the opportunity when we have young British lads who can easily be used instead?

 

If the Aussies want to carve out a career, base themselves in Denmark, Sweden or Poland. Let those countries develope the Aussies while we develope our own youngsters.

 

Alternatively, start building up the sport in Australia, make up some teams and get a league going. Yes distance in an issue but it can be achieved with planning.

 

We all moan about the British scene being weak, well lets do something about it starting by training up and bringing on British youngsters. No need to give the Aussies a helping hand.

 

British riders first.

Edited March 18, 2017 by Steve Shovlar

[Steve0 5,517]

A ban wouldn't affect riders already here. Only riders looking to come here from Australia. Lesser riders such as Doolan, Josh G, would not be affected as they are now part and parcel of the scene.

The riders who should be banned are the young lads hoping to come over and carve out a career. Whu should they be given the opportunity when we have young British lads who can easily be used instead?

If the Aussies want to carve out a career, base themselves in Denmark, Sweden or Poland. Let those countries develope the Aussies while we develope our own youngsters.

Alternatively, start building up the sport in Australia, make up some teams and get a league going. Yes distance in an issue but it can be achieved with planning.

We all koan about the British scene being weak, well lets do something about it starting by training up and bringing on British youngsters. No need to give the Aussies a helping hand.

British riders first.

I agree - Poole should replace Jack Holder and Brady Kurtz with young Brits - don't want young Aussies who haven't been here long

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

I agree - Poole should replace Jack Holder and Brady Kurtz with young Brits - don't want young Aussies who haven't been here long

Clearly too late for this season but next year a rule can be brought in to stop the flow. Poole will be hit harder than most clubs as we are known as a main user of this source of rider.

 

Time to back the Brits.

[Steve0 5,517]

Clearly too late for this season but next year a rule can be brought in to stop the flow. Poole will be hit harder than most clubs as we are known as a main user of this source of rider.

Time to back the Brits.

HYPOCRITE!!

[bigcatdiary 3,165]

The only reason Poole and other clubs use young Aussies is the frankly ridiculous assessed averages they start on, if they were properly assessed true averages to their potential we wouldn't see many being flown over as clubs just wouldn't take the financial chance.

 

Only Brits should start off on 2.00 or 3.00, all riders not British should start on a minimum of 7.00 irrespective of where they come from.

Edited March 18, 2017 by bigcatdiary

[Woz01 3,589]

The only reason Poole and other clubs use young Aussies is the frankly ridiculous assessed averages they start on, if they were properly assessed true averages to their potential we wouldn't see many being flown over as clubs just wouldn't take the financial chance.

 

Only Brits should start off on 2.00 or 3.00, all riders not British should start on a minimum of 7.00 irrespective of were they come from.

Agree. If they give Aussie riders an higher assessed average clubs will think twice about taking a risk on them and instead take a risk on a young Brit.

[Starman2006 2,355]

The only reason Poole and other clubs use young Aussies is the frankly ridiculous assessed averages they start on, if they were properly assessed true averages to their

 

The only reason Poole and other clubs use young Aussies is the frankly ridiculous assessed averages they start on, if they were properly assessed true averages to their potential

How can you assess an untried Aussie on potential ? You can't. To me thats just another excuss.

Edited March 18, 2017 by Starman2006

[foamfence 2,917]

 

How can you assess an untried Aussie on potential ? You can't. To me thats just another excuss.

You can't, but then how can you give him a place ahead of a young Brit who wants to climb the ladder but keeps getting overlooked? You have to impose an average that means that the local lad is the better and less riskier signing.

[IronScorpion 1,407]

This is why Polish speedway is probably the best in the world.

 

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fsportowefakty.wp.pl%2Fzuzel%2Fzdjecia%2Fgaleria%2F12541%2Fzmodernizowany-stadion-olimpijski-we-wroclawiu-galleria

 

Money is no object helped by the fact speedway is one of their top sports & aided/financed by Government & local council cash.

 

 

On the topic of riders being released to ride for their Polish club, they have to good enough. They have a squad system, USE IT.

 

Just look at what happened to C Cook last year. He was a 10pt PL rider & also a 7pt EL rider. He then got a place in a European team, travelled over for practices but could not get in the team. Hence his return to PL racing at Peterborough to make it pay. Yet he is one of our top British riders.

Sorry if the link doesn't work(I have just tried again after bing translate, but it is the stadium revamp at Wroclaw)

 

http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/zdjecia/galeria/12541/zmodernizowany-stadion-olimpijski-we-wroclawiu-galeria

[foamfence 2,917]

This is why Polish speedway is probably the best in the world.

 

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fsportowefakty.wp.pl%2Fzuzel%2Fzdjecia%2Fgaleria%2F12541%2Fzmodernizowany-stadion-olimpijski-we-wroclawiu-galleria

 

Money is no object helped by the fact speedway is one of their top sports & aided/financed by Government & local council cash.

 

 

On the topic of riders being released to ride for their Polish club, they have to good enough. They have a squad system, USE IT.

 

Just look at what happened to C Cook last year. He was a 10pt PL rider & also a 7pt EL rider. He then got a place in a European team, travelled over for practices but could not get in the team. Hence his return to PL racing at Peterborough to make it pay. Yet he is one of our top British riders.

He also looked very handy over there, finishing on the podium in an individual meeting and scoring reasonably well in a challenge match, they seem to be spoilt for choice, or maybe a young Pole needed a place, which is exactly what we should be doing (prioritising our own).

[barncooseboy 237]

Post Brexit Aussies will still need to get a BRITISH VISA to ride in the uk, it will not then give them access to all eu countries as it does at present

Edited March 18, 2017 by barncooseboy

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

Post Brexit Aussies will still need to get a BRITISH VISA to ride in the uk, it will not then give them access to all eu countries as it does at present

The top boys will have no trouble getting an eu visa as they are leaders of their sport. Just more paperwork for them.

[acef 795]

Woffinden is just a disrespectful nob.

 

You never, ever turn your back on your country. No matter how you may disagree with the way it works.

 

If it was down to me he'd never ride for team GB again, and he'd never ride in this country again.

 

We will get our wish this year and I'm absolutely chuffed with it.

 

For the record, I agree with a lot of what he says, but he goes about expressing it in completely the wrong way.