Dave Jones 2,127 Posted August 13, 2017 we were discussing this ban the other night . danny bird got a ban, BUT his suspension from british speedway did not start until he paid his fine . danny didnt pay the fine , so his ban is still pending . also i hope the ban is only in force during the actual british speedway season and not during the close season . http://www.speedwaystar.net/news.php?extend.386.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheReturn 1,724 Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) I can't see any reason for an appeal, Holder is out of UK speedway for this season given the transfer window date. Then we have 5 months break for the close season, providing he pays his fine he can be back in action 4 weeks after next season starts. When you break it down it's not much of a ban really, and I doubt 3 grand will inconvenience him either. I suppose his biggest issue will be a work permit for 2018. I hope he does appeal, so the ban then will be suspended until the hearing, which means he will miss more of 2018 when it is upheld (and extended). He looked a shadow of his former self last night... I wonder if Poole fans really want him back? Edited August 13, 2017 by TheReturn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Jones 2,127 Posted August 13, 2017 I hope he does appeal, so the ban then will be suspended until the hearing, which means he will miss more of 2018 when it is upheld (and extended). He looked a shadow of his former self last night... I wonder if Poole fans really want him back? Don't disagree with any of that. "Batchelor withdrew from the same meeting owing to injury and, on production of a medical certificate, the SCB took no further action against him." I bet Fricke is glad he didn't take chapman up on his offer. 'Broken neck? Get on that bike or you're fired you soft Aussie whinger'. Are there any depths chapman isn't prepared to stoop to? Belle Vue fans already had the heads up long before we moved the new stadium, but it has just been one thing after another. The man has no shame, he must be a proper nasty piece of work, no wonder British speedway is in so bad a state with him calling the shots. You are wasting your time on me Fred, I can't say I've read much you have posted that I can agree with since you have been on your current "mission" 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Scrutton 180 Posted August 13, 2017 When do you have to return to the "NUT HOUSE" your ieave must surely be up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocketman77 41 Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) There is more too his ban than just his refusal to ride that night on a track that Was fit to race on. Any british fans still happy to support DW43 ? Lets hope Not Edited August 13, 2017 by rocketman77 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starboy118 237 Posted August 14, 2017 So it's self employed when it suits, but 'denied a living' when it doesn't? Exactly! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinny 2,536 Posted August 14, 2017 I dont think they serve any purpose at all. Another idea to make a quick buck. Yep without British speedway none would have got to and been where they are were. But on the flip side, had you been professional at something wouldn't you have appreciated the help like Darcy has got ?? My guess it would be yes. Yea youd appreciate the help like darcy ward has got yet wouldnt go slagging british speedway off on social media like Ward has done. The guy is an absolute pillock. I hope he doesnt gain another penny out of uk speedway. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odds On 373 Posted August 14, 2017 Fred Flange, on 13 Aug 2017 - 7:19 PM, said:Are there any depths chapman isn't prepared to stoop to? Belle Vue fans already had the heads up long before we moved the new stadium, but it has just been one thing after another. The man has no shame, he must be a proper nasty piece of work, no wonder British speedway is in so bad a state with him calling the shots. I thought Chapman was the Chairman?...anybody with an inkling of any sense would realise that the decision of CH ban from British speedway would be made by the committee, Chapman may of been the catalyst for the push for the ban but the final decision would of been made by the committee which he probably doesn't get a vote on...or I could be completely wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinny 2,536 Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) I dont think they serve any purpose at all. Another idea to make a quick buck. Yep without British speedway none would have got to and been where they are were. But on the flip side, had you been professional at something wouldn't you have appreciated the help like Darcy has got ?? My guess it would be Edited August 14, 2017 by Pinny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted August 17, 2017 http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/5987/holder-no-regrets-over-safety Holder's response is about what you'd expect but it doesn't come across as doing him many favours, the appeal should be interesting anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted August 17, 2017 http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/5987/holder-no-regrets-over-safety Holder's response is about what you'd expect but it doesn't come across as doing him many favours, the appeal should be interesting anyway.So it's definitely one sided then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odds On 373 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) so basically its garbage and he can't be doing with garbage. I wonder how many British promoters would take a chance on Holder going forward? Just to summarise, both sides are winners, Chapman has off loaded Holder and Holder doesn't have to ride for Chapman. Edited August 17, 2017 by Odds On 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheReturn 1,724 Posted August 17, 2017 http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/5987/holder-no-regrets-over-safety Holder's response is about what you'd expect but it doesn't come across as doing him many favours, the appeal should be interesting anyway. He's taken the Hancock 'I am did this for the benefit of everyone else' approach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted August 17, 2017 http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/5987/holder-no-regrets-over-safety Holder's response is about what you'd expect but it doesn't come across as doing him many favours, the appeal should be interesting anyway. I do see Holder's point, he is an ex WC and knows a bad track when he see's one. Forget who is right or wrong but its unfair that Chapman wanted to fine, ban and stuff Holder for this season yet he sits on the management panel. Its all loaded one way as judge and jury. It's never going to be a fair process of two sides for prosecution and defense with an independent judge ruling on any possible punishment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted August 17, 2017 I do see Holder's point, he is an ex WC and knows a bad track when he see's one. Forget who is right or wrong but its unfair that Chapman wanted to fine, ban and stuff Holder for this season yet he sits on the management panel. Its all loaded one way as judge and jury. It's never going to be a fair process of two sides for prosecution and defense with an independent judge ruling on any possible punishment. Buster is BSPA chairman, he has no power over who the SCB suspend or ban. The only control he had was to sack Holder and plenty of riders have been sacked over the years fo ding nothing wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites