Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted April 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, East End Fan said: I understand the views about the vulnerability of the new young riders, but it is my opinion that most of the fault lies with the BSPA who this year ( and probably in the past too) engineered a silly low team building average making it certain that some teams would have to employ young riders who are not ready. Not all promoters discard riders easily. But they are few and far between.. If this year the points average would have been a healthy 42.5 then all the capable riders now without team places would have a job while some of the no hopers at 6 & 7 would still be attending training schools where they belong. You make a very fair case and there are probably just enough riders out of work in the wings that could have swapped in for one of the 3 pointers per side if teams had chosen to build that way? There is also a very strong possibility that promotions would have spread the additional points over the 1-5 and still named newbies at reserve and potentially put 5 pointers out of work? Lets not forget some sides still struggled to build to the limit. Averages will continue to be false until the BSPA agree a limit and stick to it for a set number of years rather than continually fluctuating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*JJ 512 Posted April 4, 2018 21 hours ago, East End Fan said: . If this year the points average would have been a healthy 42.5 then all the capable riders now without team places would have a job while some of the no hopers at 6 & 7 would still be attending training schools where they belong. Development Leagues. You need to serve a season in the MDL etc. at least before becoming good enough for the NL; a DL superstar will still struggle at NL level, just as a NL no.1 can struggle as a Championship reserve. The fact is, unless they have been racing in motorcross etc., a rider progresses ftom training sessions (not 'schools') to amateur racing to Development Leagues to NL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalterPlinge 657 Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, *JJ said: Development Leagues. You need to serve a season in the MDL etc. at least before becoming good enough for the NL Tell that to Dan Bewley, Tom Brennan, Jordan Jenkins, Kyle Bickley, Henry Atkins, Drew Kemp, Leon Flint etc etc Edited April 4, 2018 by WalterPlinge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*JJ 512 Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, WalterPlinge said: Tell that to Dan Bewley, Tom Brennan, Jordan Jenkins, Kyle Bickley, Henry Atkins, Drew Kemp, Leon Flint etc etc They spent years coming up through the Junior speedway system, although the first time I saw Bewley, Bickley and Kemp was at amateur meetings. Edited April 5, 2018 by *JJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalterPlinge 657 Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, *JJ said: They spent years coming up through the Junior speedway system, although the first time I saw Bewley, Bickley and Kemp was at amateur meetings. None of them came through a year in the MDL as you said everyone should. Bewley only sat on a speedway bike for the first time about 5 months before making his NL debut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,065 Posted May 6, 2018 How can Extance’s average be 4.12? He last ended on 4.48 and signed for Eastbourne last year on 4.48. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnTwo 317 Posted May 7, 2018 Must have been reduced due to injury? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fubar 68 Posted June 1, 2018 On 3/30/2018 at 8:00 PM, fubar said: I'm sorry that William appears to be taken on and then discarded whenever the wind changes direction. Whilst he may not have set the world alight, the lad does seem a genuine trier and I really do hope that, as seems to happen with so many of these youngsters, he doesn't get booted out before he gets the chance to make some kind of a mark. Hope it works out for the young man. Sorry to quote my own post but apparently William O'Keefe's time has come to an end and he has been replaced by new cannon fodder in the form of Josh Embleton. Sorry Josh. Hope you don't end up on Gloomy Road's ever growing slag heap. Further exciting developments at the Theatre of Darkness include the fact that Adam Isherwood now seems to be billed as team manager rather than just side-kick and the two deceased officials continue to be listed on the website so perhaps there is reincarnation after all. At least now I'm an ex speedway supporter I won't have to endure any more trips to this dismal dive. Be seeing you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted June 1, 2018 59 minutes ago, fubar said: Sorry to quote my own post but apparently William O'Keefe's time has come to an end and he has been replaced by new cannon fodder in the form of Josh Embleton. Sorry Josh. Hope you don't end up on Gloomy Road's ever growing slag heap. Further exciting developments at the Theatre of Darkness include the fact that Adam Isherwood now seems to be billed as team manager rather than just side-kick and the two deceased officials continue to be listed on the website so perhaps there is reincarnation after all. At least now I'm an ex speedway supporter I won't have to endure any more trips to this dismal dive. Be seeing you. Thank god for that!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalterPlinge 657 Posted June 2, 2018 Another sunny evening forecast for Stoke. Another postponement at the Stadium of Dark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
griffo 20 Posted June 2, 2018 Once again Furber you have opened your mouth before engaging your brain, the match is postponed anyway but the reason Josh has been brought in is because Will is not fit after Dislocating his shoulder at the last meeting and you can only replace a 3 pointer with a 3 pointer but what does that matter to people like you who like to have a go at Stoke wether its true or not and you wont be missed at Loomer Road so Bye 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProudtobeaBrummie 646 Posted June 2, 2018 2 hours ago, griffo said: Once again Furber you have opened your mouth before engaging your brain, the match is postponed anyway but the reason Josh has been brought in is because Will is not fit after Dislocating his shoulder at the last meeting and you can only replace a 3 pointer with a 3 pointer but what does that matter to people like you who like to have a go at Stoke wether its true or not and you wont be missed at Loomer Road so Bye I think Josh is a decent addition best unattached 3 pointer I've seen this season beat cuppitt and butcher round Perry barr i was hoping we might get him in as he seemed to go well at Perry barr was competitive all evening so great move by stoke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalterPlinge 657 Posted June 3, 2018 16 hours ago, griffo said: Once again Furber you have opened your mouth before engaging your brain, the match is postponed anyway Good of the Stoke Clerk of the Course to explain the reason behind the new signing. Could he also explain why the match was "postponed anyway" Why are Stoke allowed to continually postpone matches on nice dry nights for no apparent reason? I can see a backlog happening again at the end of October in bad weather. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the hobbit 153 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Surely it’s now time for the officials to call time on this dreadful Stoke promotion and eject them from the League. That might allow Buxton to sign some riders and keep them going. At least the Buxton promotion want to run a team and want to fulfil their fixtures. Unlike this shambles at a stoke year in, year out . Edited June 3, 2018 by the hobbit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosty 500 Posted June 3, 2018 Dave Tatum try's hard to run Stoke, But I think it's on a limited budget! He needs to sell-up or give-up & someone else with fresh ideas & more financial clout to come in & rejuvenate Stoke Speedway PLEASE.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites