Grand Central 2,654 Posted February 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: POLAND will compete on both days ... it's a two-day event Jos Vaessen must feel vindicated. It has taken thirty years for the FIM to resurrect his failed Amsterdam experiment on real Speedway. I bet it will be another 30 years again before it is repeated. ' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Well. The SWC managed very well for over 15years without succumbing to the Grand Final pressure from TV. The team with most points won. And it seemed quite successful. The SWC was very predictable, and will remain that way, while Poland have huge strength in depth. There 2nd team could probably beat most other finailists. At least 2 man teams will allow many countries to compete on a more level playing field. Poland may still win it but it will not be as easy for them. That must make better viewing for fans and TV. Edited February 9, 2018 by Mark 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grand Central 2,654 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mark said: The SWC was very predictable, and will remain that way, while Poland have huge strength in depth. There 2nd team could probably beat most other finailists. At least 2 man teams will allow many countries to compete on a more level playing field. Poland may still win it but it will not be as easy for them. That must make better viewing for fans and TV. You may be right on that. But we were actually discussing the 'climax' element demanded by TV. Which the SWC managed without for many years producing exciting Speedway that came across brilliantly on TV and seemed to satisfy the media people as well as fans. Of course by having a two day event the organisers are actually ensuring that the first meeting ends with no climax at all. Which is strange if the TV people need it so much Edited February 9, 2018 by Grand Central Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted February 9, 2018 Maybe because the old FIM/BSI World Cup contract is based on 4 Televised Meetings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kraftwerk 34 Posted February 9, 2018 would like to see how they will decide which 15 countries are in. For sure there will have to be quali meeting to get for the race off? and who will already be waiting in the race off ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,737 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kraftwerk said: would like to see how they will decide which 15 countries are in. For sure there will have to be quali meeting to get for the race off? and who will already be waiting in the race off ... Top 15 in the rankings- don’t think there will be a qualifying meeting. In the SWC they have had 12 countries - so shouldn’t be a problem finding another 3 Edited February 9, 2018 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willstaxi 280 Posted February 9, 2018 Surly if there is a tie after 21 races it must be a 2 man run off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted February 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, willstaxi said: Surly if there is a tie after 21 races it must be a 2 man run off Or the scoring for the final could be 3,2,1,1 which would get round the 2nd and 3rd just sitting there and blocking out the 4th rider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry 1,319 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, A ORLOV said: Or the scoring for the final could be 3,2,1,1 which would get round the 2nd and 3rd just sitting there and blocking out the 4th rider. It's up to his partner to slow the race and help him get past his opponent(s). You shouldn't get any reward for finishing last in pairs racing. It's not 'blocking out', it's called team riding which I believe was quite big in speedway once upon a time! Edited February 10, 2018 by Terry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted February 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Grand Central said: You may be right on that. But we were actually discussing the 'climax' element demanded by TV. Which the SWC managed without for many years producing exciting Speedway that came across brilliantly on TV and seemed to satisfy the media people as well as fans. Of course by having a two day event the organisers are actually ensuring that the first meeting ends with no climax at all. Which is strange if the TV people need it so much Bloody hell, do you ever stop moaning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Well lets try and give it the benefit of doubt before we knock it. Country wise: Australia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Latvia, Poland, Sweden, Italy, France, Germany, Russia, ??, Finland, Slovenia, GB and USA? At a guess. Edited February 10, 2018 by Panthers89 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,997 Posted February 10, 2018 58 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: Well lets try and give it the benefit of doubt before we knock it. Country wise: Australia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Latvia, Poland, Sweden, Italy, France, Germany, Russia, Poland, Finland, Slovenia, GB and USA? At a guess. Not really improving anything.Swapping one problem for another,particularly giving Poland two teams!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted February 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, iris123 said: Not really improving anything.Swapping one problem for another,particularly giving Poland two teams!!!! Ha bugger! Who else then lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,997 Posted February 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: Ha bugger! Who else then lol Hungary were traditionally a better team than anyone else,but not sure of their current strength.They didn't even enter the Euro pairs,so maybe have few riders or no money 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,737 Posted February 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: Ha bugger! Who else then lol Martin Vaculik and ANO for Slovakia 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites