Racin Jason 72 1,283 Posted August 7, 2018 Ronni rode with his weight further back so his front wheel was hardly touching the track down the straights. But soon as you hit a rut or unexpected grip you take off and become a passenger. I was there that night and I understand why Ben took revenge. It was a highly competitive meeting with frank ebdon favouring the panthers and it all ending up in court with the judge ruling in Ipswich’s favour and overturning the result Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davet 52 Posted August 7, 2018 I was there too and there was no possible excuse for Howe's action. If Jeremy Doncaster had reacted it would have been understandable if not excusable. It was nothing to do with Howe. Fortunately he seemed to disappear off the scene shortly after and good riddance! There's no place for such stupid behaviour in an already dangerous sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinny 2,536 Posted August 7, 2018 As did Ronni. Howe retired through injury , he was one of the most exciting riders I have seen around Newport when he was in the mood. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Pinny said: As did Ronni. Howe retired through injury , he was one of the most exciting riders I have seen around Newport when he was in the mood. Ben had an insane amount of natural talent and was a super quick rider What he lacked was discipline and application and perhaps the self belief Wonderful to watch in full flow but equally frustrating when it wasnt going so well 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racin Jason 72 1,283 Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pinny said: As did Ronni. Howe retired through injury , he was one of the most exciting riders I have seen around Newport when he was in the mood. He was brilliant at foxhall too when there was plenty of dirt. Whilst I don’t agree with Ben’s actions he witnessed pedersens spear of Jeremy as he was right behind him at the time of the accident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge 5,125 Posted August 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: He was brilliant at foxhall too when there was plenty of dirt. Whilst I don’t agree with Ben’s actions he witnessed pedersens spear of Jeremy as he was right behind him at the time of the accident. Definitely my son's favourite rider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge 5,125 Posted August 7, 2018 Just in case it's been missed, and as he rode for both clubs Dave Gooderham passed away recently, after suffering a stroke 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted August 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Badge said: Just in case it's been missed, and as he rode for both clubs Dave Gooderham passed away recently, after suffering a stroke Too young to have any significant memories of him but one of the long list of local riders that made the club at ipswich what it was as it established itself Perhaps overshadowed by those higher profile stars but still every bit a part of a team - the type of rider that was (and still is) vital to making speedway work 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,700 Posted August 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, Badge said: Just in case it's been missed, and as he rode for both clubs Dave Gooderham passed away recently, after suffering a stroke That's just terrible news. Dave was one of the nicest guys i ever met, and i will never forget all the help he gave me when i started riding. RIP dear friend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge 5,125 Posted August 7, 2018 http://www.peterboroughpanthers.co/news.php?extend.3439 Just to confirm sad news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Ben had an insane amount of natural talent and was a super quick rider What he lacked was discipline and application and perhaps the self belief Wonderful to watch in full flow but equally frustrating when it wasnt going so well We seem to have another one like that now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul281 0 Posted August 7, 2018 On 8/6/2018 at 6:09 PM, scoobydoo said: From the sounds of things Heeps wipes out Mcdonalds most weeks I've seen him a couple of times in a certain bakery chain near Ipswich Hospital which specialises in sausage rolls and whose name is very similar to the first name of an American four time World Champion! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinny 2,536 Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Ben had an insane amount of natural talent and was a super quick rider What he lacked was discipline and application and perhaps the self belief Wonderful to watch in full flow but equally frustrating when it wasnt going so well When there was a bit of dirt on the outside at Newport, watching Howe in full flow is up there with the best. i remember him suffering a nasty injury at Lakeside, someone fell in front of him. He came off and smashed his arm to bits. Made a brief comeback a couple of years later but was never the same rider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyb 156 Posted August 8, 2018 13 hours ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Ronni rode with his weight further back so his front wheel was hardly touching the track down the straights. But soon as you hit a rut or unexpected grip you take off and become a passenger. I was there that night and I understand why Ben took revenge. It was a highly competitive meeting with frank ebdon favouring the panthers and it all ending up in court with the judge ruling in Ipswich’s favour and overturning the result That incident was nothing to do with the court case. Howe shouldn't have got involved. Doncaster said that he contacted Ronni later to say that it wasn't Ronni's riding, it was the bike lifting that caused it. I agree that Howe should have been thrown out of the meeting, and never allowed to race again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New era Panthers 2,055 Posted August 8, 2018 43 minutes ago, crazyb said: That incident was nothing to do with the court case. Howe shouldn't have got involved. Doncaster said that he contacted Ronni later to say that it wasn't Ronni's riding, it was the bike lifting that caused it. I agree that Howe should have been thrown out of the meeting, and never allowed to race again The court case revolved around Lee Lanham who supposedly had retired midway through the meeting packed his bikes away and was ready to head home , not sure which heat was involved but 3 riders appeared on track and the only other rider that could have rode in that race was Lee Lanham , the pit gate was shut before the 2 minute time allowance was up believing that there would be no other rider involved, and the race was run with3 riders . Ipswich lost the tie but decided to make a case that they were denied the chance to bring out Lee Lanham in the particular race . Pure gamesmanship by John Louis and I will never forgive him for that. Great rider but his ethics as a promoter left a lot to be desired Share this post Link to post Share on other sites