teaboy279 1,038 Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, cityrebel said: The promoters will never relinquish their power to an outside agency. They would rather let the sport die, than give up their little empire. Sad,but true 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted October 16, 2018 Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results." 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 16, 2018 14 hours ago, cityrebel said: Ipswich must be one of them. I would be surprised if they were unless there were significant underlying changes I dont see there being a big shake up after all - one big league seems less likely now IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted October 16, 2018 Or one little one at the current rate of closures and for sale boards 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I would be surprised if they were unless there were significant underlying changes I dont see there being a big shake up after all - one big league seems less likely now IMO With some of NL big hitters indicating they are staying put. I'm expecting little change next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edmon 166 Posted October 16, 2018 17 hours ago, cityrebel said: Ipswich must be one of them. Speaking with a referee recently and he suggested 2 northern clubs including one which had fingers burned a number of years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted October 16, 2018 5 hours ago, cityrebel said: The way Chris Louis was talking, i thought they were up for it. They could be. I'm just assuming pirates of Poole is on about the same 2 clubs I've heard which are glasgow and Sheffield. But Sheffield already signed a rider for championship so possibly replace them with Ipswich maybe What I fear most about more teams coming up is that it will water for the product once again. Overall team average will come down no doubt. Should be 45 still. Why do clubs have to accommodate teams that refuse to speculate to accumulate and set themselves low budgets. Set it high. And if u can build a team to that limit great. If you can't. Tough, someone has to.finish bottom every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted October 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: They could be. I'm just assuming pirates of Poole is on about the same 2 clubs I've heard which are glasgow and Sheffield. But Sheffield already signed a rider for championship so possibly replace them with Ipswich maybe What I fear most about more teams coming up is that it will water for the product once again. Overall team average will come down no doubt. Should be 45 still. Why do clubs have to accommodate teams that refuse to speculate to accumulate and set themselves low budgets. Set it high. And if u can build a team to that limit great. If you can't. Tough, someone has to.finish bottom every year. Without a doubt, it will be watered down. Weaken the product and increase the admission price. A recipe for disaster. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: They could be. I'm just assuming pirates of Poole is on about the same 2 clubs I've heard which are glasgow and Sheffield. But Sheffield already signed a rider for championship so possibly replace them with Ipswich maybe What I fear most about more teams coming up is that it will water for the product once again. Overall team average will come down no doubt. Should be 45 still. Why do clubs have to accommodate teams that refuse to speculate to accumulate and set themselves low budgets. Set it high. And if u can build a team to that limit great. If you can't. Tough, someone has to.finish bottom every year. Easy to say when you are one of the teams building with the higher budgets and finishing towards the top end I wonder how those at the top would feel though if the Facennas at Glasgow and Guy Nicholls via Tru7 at Ipswich came in all guns blazing and went onto another level (both probably could if they wished) Would those then playing catch up rather than being top dogs then change their tune? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted October 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Easy to say when you are one of the teams building with the higher budgets and finishing towards the top end I wonder how those at the top would feel though if the Facennas at Glasgow and Guy Nicholls via Tru7 at Ipswich came in all guns blazing and went onto another level (both probably could if they wished) Would those then playing catch up rather than being top dogs then change their tune? They would relish the challenge I should imagine Poole wolves and belle vue don't want a points limit. They would love some other big hitters in to try and improve the TOP league Watering down the league every year hasn't helped with crowd levels. So let's try and build really good teams. I'm not stupid though I know that's not going to be a turning point for speedway in this country. The problems are much deeper 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 16, 2018 I wonder though Phil if those that dont want a points limit now is because they are the ones that could dominate as it stands now Guy Nicholls has probably spent more on new plant for his Tru business this month that Matt Fords full asking price for Poole So far he hasnt been inclined to buy a club largely due to the restrictions in place If there were none he may do it and then Id guess perhaps some of those advocating a free reign would not be so keen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted October 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I wonder though Phil if those that dont want a points limit now is because they are the ones that could dominate as it stands now Guy Nicholls has probably spent more on new plant for his Tru business this month that Matt Fords full asking price for Poole So far he hasnt been inclined to buy a club largely due to the restrictions in place If there were none he may do it and then Id guess perhaps some of those advocating a free reign would not be so keen If the promoters do feel like that and they don't relish the competition then they don't deserve to be in the competition 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted October 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: If the promoters do feel like that and they don't relish the competition then they don't deserve to be in the competition Would be great if it could get towards that level of competition and not just from a position of individual benevolence but to have that as a sustainable business proposition Thats the dream anyway..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brummie Kev 519 Posted October 16, 2018 8 hours ago, cityrebel said: With some of NL big hitters indicating they are staying put. I'm expecting little change next season. I will be very disapointed if the Brummies dont move up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spl77 337 Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I wonder though Phil if those that dont want a points limit now is because they are the ones that could dominate as it stands now Guy Nicholls has probably spent more on new plant for his Tru business this month that Matt Fords full asking price for Poole So far he hasnt been inclined to buy a club largely due to the restrictions in place If there were none he may do it and then Id guess perhaps some of those advocating a free reign would not be so keen With the money Guy has spent on Plant this month he could probably buy British speedway....... Now there a though! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites