lisa-colette 6,035 Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Speedtiger said: ...well you would say that...wouldn’t you! What, speak reason? The truth? Put your wooden spoon away, no one is buying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted June 29, 2019 10 hours ago, WestGorton1884 said: Do some BV fans honestly believe the Poole promotion waited until they were in front before calling the halt ? Its simple really, they could have called it off at heat 8 ( 24-24), but because the fans had waited patiently , They tried to cram in as many heats as possible before the 10-15 curfew . Poole had no way of knowing they'd gain heat advantages from any of the last 4 races ? More to the point why does anybody take anything that ouch says seriously? I’ve always wondered muppet or wind up merchant, I’m currently swaying towards the latter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,192 Posted June 29, 2019 So you honestly believe they would have called if off had they been losing? Genuine question, yes or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daz9100 270 Posted June 29, 2019 Yes. They agreed on a cut off time of 10:15. Anything could have happened over those remaining heats. I wasn’t expecting us to win with 2 men out and having to rely on Paul Starke to take on better riders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted June 29, 2019 Many in the crowd thought it would be called off after heat 8 - in fact it was announced what the refund/readmission policy would be for a future meeting if it was called off then. However the ref went down to the pits and had discussions with both teams. Both teams wanted to continue racing subject to what time the paramedic was likely to return. A 'curfew' time of 10.15pm was agreed and announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daz9100 270 Posted June 29, 2019 And as Nij has said, if the paramedic wasn’t back by 10pm they would have called it off then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,192 Posted June 29, 2019 If you believe yes, I see now why my opinion on the subject would be considered that of a muppet or a wind up merchant. Over the years teams, whether a curfew was in place or there had been an agreed finish time, would continue in an effort to gain a win or call it if they were in front. I’d say this would happen ninety odd percent of the time. Poole over the last decade or so have become infamous for stretching, bending or just plain breaking the rules. This I hope goes some way to explain my take on it all but I can appreciate any newbies without this knowledge would take it as red that everything was above board, as it should be. Alternatively if you believe that clubs call meetings whether in front or not or that Poole’s reputation is unwarranted then I can understand why you’d think my opinion don’t match yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, ouch said: If you believe yes, I see now why my opinion on the subject would be considered that of a muppet or a wind up merchant. Over the years teams, whether a curfew was in place or there had been an agreed finish time, would continue in an effort to gain a win or call it if they were in front. I’d say this would happen ninety odd percent of the time. Poole over the last decade or so have become infamous for stretching, bending or just plain breaking the rules. This I hope goes some way to explain my take on it all but I can appreciate any newbies without this knowledge would take it as red that everything was above board, as it should be. Alternatively if you believe that clubs call meetings whether in front or not or that Poole’s reputation is unwarranted then I can understand why you’d think my opinion don’t match yours. I guess any 'newbies' wouldn't know about a track being deliberately flooded when their top rider was supposedly missing? An act which was caught out and officially punished by the SCB/BSPA? No? Just us 'oldies' then!!! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArthurRudge 347 Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: I guess any 'newbies' wouldn't know about a track being deliberately flooded when their top rider was supposedly missing? An act which was caught out and officially punished by the SCB/BSPA? No? Just us 'oldies' then!!! Thought you were not posting anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottyfan 824 Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ouch said: If you believe yes, I see now why my opinion on the subject would be considered that of a muppet or a wind up merchant. Over the years teams, whether a curfew was in place or there had been an agreed finish time, would continue in an effort to gain a win or call it if they were in front. I’d say this would happen ninety odd percent of the time. Poole over the last decade or so have become infamous for stretching, bending or just plain breaking the rules. This I hope goes some way to explain my take on it all but I can appreciate any newbies without this knowledge would take it as red that everything was above board, as it should be. Alternatively if you believe that clubs call meetings whether in front or not or that Poole’s reputation is unwarranted then I can understand why you’d think my opinion don’t match yours. Just to use this match as a reference as you said the last decade or so Poole have called meetings off to suit them... Poole v Ipswich September 10th 2009:- Poole 35 - Ipswich 37 .... Meeting abandoned after 12 heats due to 10pm curfew. Edited June 29, 2019 by scottyfan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, ArthurRudge said: Thought you were not posting anymore Having had a long chat with the promoters on Thursday, I was thanked for my positive attitude, so I've had a (temporary) change of heart. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acef 795 Posted June 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: I guess any 'newbies' wouldn't know about a track being deliberately flooded when their top rider was supposedly missing? An act which was caught out and officially punished by the SCB/BSPA? No? Just us 'oldies' then!!! One one off occurrence of which bv were reprimanded. Poole, over the years, have persistently broken rules and never had the consequences. Part of an established elite that is often untouched. People in glass houses an all that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArthurRudge 347 Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Skidder1 said: Having had a long chat with the promoters on Thursday, I was thanked for my positive attitude, so I've had a (temporary) change of heart. Haha you couldn't resist it could you be honest lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, acef said: One one off occurrence of which bv were reprimanded. Poole, over the years, have persistently broken rules and never had the consequences. Part of an established elite that is often untouched. People in glass houses an all that Break the rules and get punished by the authorities. No problem with that. Next.......!? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acef 795 Posted June 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Break the rules and get punished by the authorities. No problem with that. Next.......!? It's good that you endorse the rulings. My argument is poole have often got away with bending or breaking them, yet as soon BV pulled a fast one they were done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
