Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 6, 2020 12 hours ago, bruno said: I remember that decider at Dudley Wood I'm presuming Swindon were there that night. Remember the golden helmet being a big thing back then The Heathens beat the Budgies 40-38 Bruno, Bruce Cribb scoring 17 points from seven rides R/R for Boulger. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: At Wimbledon October 07/10/75 Jansson beat Autrey in a run off after both scoring 14 points.There were other Qualifying rounds Steve so you might of seen a few of them ??? i unfortunately did not. No I wasn't at that one Sid...probably getting confused! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 7, 2020 On 4/5/2020 at 11:14 AM, steve roberts said: I only saw Tommy on a few rare occasions (Wimbledon sharing the same race night as Oxford) but I did see him at Swindon in the Golden Helmet match race at Swindon in 1976...probably the last time I saw him ride. Also saw him ride at White City's opening meeting in 1976 when Gordon Kennett beat him twice from the back. Also saw him ride during the 1975 Geoff Curtis Memorial Meeting when he lost in a three way run off with John Davis and Dag Lovaas. I'm convinced that he would have been a very big player if he hadn't died so tragically. A very sad loss. Just looked back at the programme of the meeting you talked about White City v Wimbledon 1976 ( opening meeting). Kennett beating Jansson twice and Jansson going on and winning the man of the meeting final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Just looked back at the programme of the meeting you talked about White City v Wimbledon 1976 ( opening meeting). Kennett beating Jansson twice and Jansson going on and winning the man of the meeting final. It was a great evenig Sid...watching speedway in a vast stadium under floodlights after having been used to Cowley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted April 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, steve roberts said: It was a great evenig Sid...watching speedway in a vast stadium under floodlights after having been used to Cowley. I was at that meeting. Stood at the back of the stand on the second bend I seem to recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Grachan said: I was at that meeting. Stood at the back of the stand on the second bend I seem to recall. I remember like it was yesterday...great memories! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FAST GATER 853 Posted April 7, 2020 Am I the only one who misses the tape touching the starts seemed so much more of a lottery in those days ,nothing like seeing one of the top dogs heading back to the pits after breaking the tapes . I know all the arguements for the rules today but IMO overall the cream always floats to the top and the best riders will win most of the time ,they can either gate or not . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, FAST GATER said: Am I the only one who misses the tape touching the starts seemed so much more of a lottery in those days ,nothing like seeing one of the top dogs heading back to the pits after breaking the tapes . I know all the arguements for the rules today but IMO overall the cream always floats to the top and the best riders will win most of the time ,they can either gate or not . I would tend to agree...Ivan Mauger often said that whatever system was in place he would still make most of his starts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, steve roberts said: It was a great evenig Sid...watching speedway in a vast stadium under floodlights after having been used to Cowley. The best three meeting's i saw at White City were White City v Swindon 1977 - 1982 Penhall (scandal meeting!!!) 1983 Incontinental Final .And the best couple of meeting's i saw at Cowley had to be Oxford v Supporters select 1978 ( Shields outstanding ) and Carter's miraculous effort in the British semi final. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, FAST GATER said: Am I the only one who misses the tape touching the starts seemed so much more of a lottery in those days ,nothing like seeing one of the top dogs heading back to the pits after breaking the tapes . I know all the arguements for the rules today but IMO overall the cream always floats to the top and the best riders will win most of the time ,they can either gate or not . On watching the clips, it is obvious that there is no "get ready" as it is all watch the tapes & go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: The best three meeting's i saw at White City were White City v Swindon 1977 - 1982 Penhall (scandal meeting!!!) 1983 Incontinental Final .And the best couple of meeting's i saw at Cowley had to be Oxford v Supporters select 1978 ( Shields outstanding ) and Carter's miraculous effort in the British semi final. I'm going to have to give that some serious thought Sid! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Grachan said: I was at that meeting. Stood at the back of the stand on the second bend I seem to recall. Grachan can you remember the Swindon v Exeter meeting ?? when Ivan needed to be secretly escorted out of the Abbey under a blanket.This was after he badly brought Kilby down in one race a great meeting incident packed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Grachan can you remember the Swindon v Exeter meeting ?? when Ivan needed to be secretly escorted out of the Abbey under a blanket.This was after he badly brought Kilby down in one race a great meeting incident packed. Yeah. I think so. I remember them both crashing on the pits bend and both tumbling along the track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Grachan said: Yeah. I think so. I remember them both crashing on the pits bend and both tumbling along the track. Mauger could be ruthless and he was way out of line in this incident, but wherever Ivan rode he put a few hundred on the gate LEGEND. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, steve roberts said: I'm going to have to give that some serious thought Sid! I do recall one of the great races at Wood Lane...against King's Lynn early in 1977 when on the last lap Kai Niemi rode round Terry Betts on the second bend and under Michael Lee going into the third bend (or it may have been the other way round) to complete a 12point maximum! However I have lots of memories of White City and wouldn't have changed it for the world thanks to an equally enthusiastic father. Between 1976 and 1978 got to witness the best of both worlds. British League speedway at White City and National League at Oxford plus visits to Swindon cheering on the oppostion! Great days! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites