scoobydoo 2,254 Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, TTT said: If Chris Holder has gone with Nicki P coming in as expected then we'll be better off tbh. Nicki P will be committed 24/7 because he doesn't like losing in any race. If Peterborough have any ambitions of even being a competitive team in 2023 they need both Holder and Pedersen Edited February 15, 2023 by scoobydoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,781 Posted February 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: If Peterborough have any amitions of even being a competitive team in 2023 they need both Holder and Pedersen Someone has suggested a team of Pedersen Iversen Tungate Basso Andersen Cook & Jenkins.....that's competitive IMO. I genuinely think you are better off without Holder, I suspect he would be doctoring his average for a future Poole return. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flappy 1,605 Posted February 14, 2023 If I were MT I would've pulled my sponsorship at that point personally. I just hope he gets his hands solely on the club with his team asap. In the meantime if panthers lineup as mentioned above that's a team good enough to win every home meeting and will take the heat off of buster. Us fans need to keep asking the questions and not let it rest. Pedersen Andersen Tungate Basso NKI Cook Jenkins 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTT 1,229 Posted February 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: If Peterborough have any amitions of even being a competitive team in 2023 they need both Holder and Pedersen A top 4 of Nicki, NKI, Basso & Tungate with Ben Cook at reserve will see us challenging for honours imo. We just wouldn't lose at Home with that top 4 and we'd rack up the Bonus Points too considering the margins we'd win by at Home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,665 Posted February 15, 2023 There needs to be some context to this whole situation. While Tomlin wants to build his 'winning team' what is he wanting in return? Gate receipts? Other sponsor finances etc. I just can't see Tomlin wanting to outlay the signing on fees & wages for 3 of the 4 rider's from Iversen, Pedersen, Tungate, Holder without returns. Buster, who owns the club, is responsible for stadium rents & match day bills, i.e. electric, track, fuel, tyres etc. How does Buster recover his finances? 100%, the EoES bills & Tomlin's team cannot be covered by gate receipts alone. I just think we're at a situation of stalemate between the 2 parties, in the fact that Buster (rightly so) is not willing to take losses. It's at the point that Tomlin will have to buy the club for what Buster wants or put together a weakened team so 1 or both don't end up with significant losses. If Tomlin doesn't buy now, Buster knows he's getting no return from Peterborough Panthers come the end of the 2023 season. An 'absolute' total loss from his initial takeover. So for the 2023 season Buster will want some return himself. Again, (rightly so) Buster has every right to be sure that the team & stadium costs are covered without significant loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambpanther 172 Posted February 15, 2023 Freddie at 1 a better option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 144 Posted February 15, 2023 10 hours ago, TTT said: If Chris Holder has gone with Nicki P coming in as expected then we'll be better off tbh. Nicki P will be committed 24/7 because he doesn't like losing in any race. True ...he doesn't give an inch usually.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 144 Posted February 15, 2023 57 minutes ago, cambpanther said: Freddie at 1 a better option Wont happen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flappy 1,605 Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: There needs to be some context to this whole situation. While Tomlin wants to build his 'winning team' what is he wanting in return? Gate receipts? Other sponsor finances etc. I just can't see Tomlin wanting to outlay the signing on fees & wages for 3 of the 4 rider's from Iversen, Pedersen, Tungate, Holder without returns. Buster, who owns the club, is responsible for stadium rents & match day bills, i.e. electric, track, fuel, tyres etc. How does Buster recover his finances? 100%, the EoES bills & Tomlin's team cannot be covered by gate receipts alone. I just think we're at a situation of stalemate between the 2 parties, in the fact that Buster (rightly so) is not willing to take losses. It's at the point that Tomlin will have to buy the club for what Buster wants or put together a weakened team so 1 or both don't end up with significant losses. If Tomlin doesn't buy now, Buster knows he's getting no return from Peterborough Panthers come the end of the 2023 season. An 'absolute' total loss from his initial takeover. So for the 2023 season Buster will want some return himself. Again, (rightly so) Buster has every right to be sure that the team & stadium costs are covered without significant loss. He has someone willing to take that club on full time. Including any potential losses. MT believes his team is expensive but would get the money back and more in gate receipts Edited February 15, 2023 by Flappy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTT 1,229 Posted February 15, 2023 The calm before the storm. Speedway Star Day tomorrow where we should get plenty of news. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flappy 1,605 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, cambpanther said: Freddie at 1 a better option He would but said no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flappy 1,605 Posted February 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, TTT said: The calm before the storm. Speedway Star Day tomorrow where we should get plenty of news. If they've salvaged the team by adding Pedersen and Tungate then we'll have a good season. If however they're well under the limit to track a team then I'm afraid they need to get both barrels 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,254 Posted February 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Flappy said: If I were MT I would've pulled my sponsorship at that point personally. I just hope he gets his hands solely on the club with his team asap. In the meantime if panthers lineup as mentioned above that's a team good enough to win every home meeting and will take the heat off of buster. Us fans need to keep asking the questions and not let it rest. Pedersen Andersen Tungate Basso NKI Cook Jenkins So have you heard some whispers as well then about MT withdrawing some of his sponsorship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flappy 1,605 Posted February 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: So have you heard some whispers as well then about MT withdrawing some of his sponsorship He hasn't as yet from what I'm aware and has been given a new title at the club which will be announced soon. Sounds like appeasement to me but he's still very keen, in fact keener than I would be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purplepanthernotred 155 Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Flappy said: He has someone willing to take that club on full time. Including any potential losses. MT believes his team is expensive but would get the money back and more in gate receipts I’m with you on this, can’t understand why buster (if he is the issue) wouldn’t allow tomlin more free rein. Stand more of a chance getting some money back with a decent title chasing team rather than a 2 man team like last year. If it were me I’d take pedersen over holder and he would generate more through the gate than holder. Buster just needs to stop making things awkward going by what I’ve been reading on here. Grateful for him stepping in to help the club out but he needs to go. As previously mentioned by someone else this sounds like a repeat of what he did to Ged before with regards to team building. Goes as far too say about how fantastic the supporters are at Peterborough and wishing he had that at Lynn (2021 season) then last year basically sh*ts all over the fans and keeps us all in the dark. Is tomlin the man to take Peterborough forward and save us so to speak…? I’m certainly inclined too think so and the sooner the better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
