Wolves 2023

[Tommy Sweetman 480]

7 minutes ago, Beowulf said:

Probably bettter than Dudley council though, who have let all professional sport in the borough die through inaction.

Two peas from the same pod.Perhaps that's why we might be looking at South Staffs.

Edited July 19, 2023 by Tommy Sweetman

[noaksey 345]

2 hours ago, Tommy Sweetman said:

And I believe  Leicester had a lot of help from the council in getting theirs up and running. Unfortunately don't think Wolverhampton council has the same drive and determination in helping us out in the same way.

I'd expect Wolves Council to be very supportive but if that would extend to financial contributions in this climate I'd be very surprised. As someone else mentioned a couple of the sites rumoured aren may not be in  Wolverhampton BC anyway 

[Pauldoveyspeedway 144]

2 hours ago, Tommy Sweetman said:

Two peas from the same pod.Perhaps that's why we might be looking at South Staffs.

Will they get enough  support  tho ...might be to far out for sum...

[DJWolves 82]

Wouldn’t knock the council in terms of supporting sport in Wolverhampton. They were instrumental in saving Molineux when the Bhatti brothers were planning other ideas.

I also heard that a site was being looked at in South Staffs, closer to the M6. But there were problems with that venue being too close to a motorway junction.

 

[DJWolves 82]

The owners of Monmore Green, Entain, are in a joint venture with ARC who own a number of horse racing venues including Dunstall Park in Wolverhampton. Plans are now emerging to build a greyhound track at Dunstall Park which would almost certainly lead to the Monmore Green site being redeveloped for housing.

[heathen52 385]

Whatever help Wolverhampton council give to Wolves Speedway will be better than what Cradley have received from Dudley Council, we can't even get a reply to emails sent to various Councillors with regards possible new locations, it almost seems that we have been placed on ignore hoping that we will go away.

[Tommy Sweetman 480]

28 minutes ago, DJWolves said:

The owners of Monmore Green, Entain, are in a joint venture with ARC who own a number of horse racing venues including Dunstall Park in Wolverhampton. Plans are now emerging to build a greyhound track at Dunstall Park which would almost certainly lead to the Monmore Green site being redeveloped for housing.

And also the end to speedway in Brum.   Plans submitted to build 600 houses on the Perry Bar site.

[Tommy Sweetman 480]

2 hours ago, DJWolves said:

The owners of Monmore Green, Entain, are in a joint venture with ARC who own a number of horse racing venues including Dunstall Park in Wolverhampton. Plans are now emerging to build a greyhound track at Dunstall Park which would almost certainly lead to the Monmore Green site being redeveloped for housing.

So if Entain leave Monmore,the council should serve notice that the ground that the stadium is build on should remain for sport purposes only,the same that was done with Molineux when Wolves nearly went into liquidation following the disastrous tenure of the Bhatti brothers and then by the Dougan consortium.

[DJWolves 82]

Totally agree Tommy. Sadly this company will be banking on the profits from selling to a housing company and we will be into the same kind of long winded battle that Coventry are in. But if the council took over ownership of the site, then maybe they could lease it out to a speedway promoter, if the price was right

[DJWolves 82]

And for Perry Barr the company that owns the track have already released their 2024 greyhound racing schedule, and it includes Wednesday evenings, the Brummies current race night 

[Tommy Sweetman 480]

19 minutes ago, DJWolves said:

Totally agree Tommy. Sadly this company will be banking on the profits from selling to a housing company and we will be into the same kind of long winded battle that Coventry are in. But if the council took over ownership of the site, then maybe they could lease it out to a speedway promoter, if the price was right

Yes of course,and as with Molineux with the Gallagher brothers putting in the money,so the same with Monmore it will also needs private investment  rather than  tax payers left with the burden.

[dave1075 56]

Unfortunately in the current financial climate, multi million pound companies like Entain & ARC ( both major betting companies) who are owned by Lord & Lady ?????  or Ex Politicians who just want to make money and are not interested in running speedway in these venues & couldn’t care less what normal members of the public want.
They buy these stadiums & sell them to property developers for housing, they then use this income to invest in other ventures they own with other members of the Heirarchy by making them into large sporting complexes with hotels on site. They incorporate greyhound racing as this brings in a large percentage of revenue via SIS to all betting shops for BAG’s & BEG’s meetings.

I can’t see any councils having anywhere near enough excess money to buy the stadiums in question from the property developers, unless their is some sort of multi -millionaire with a interest in speedway who can persuade them to sell to him/her & hopefully stay involved & not get dragged onto the dark side by these greedy parasites who say “bugger you I’m alright Jack” I’ve got LOADSAMONEY.

[HGould 2,213]

No chance of Speedway at Dunstall Park Horse Racing Track. 

It's surrounded on 2 sides by Housing and you drive through housing estate to get in. 

South Staffs would include areas between Wombourne, Penn and Finchfield along the road out it Bridgnorth, too rural I'd suggest and inaccessible for anyone without a car

One area that might work is the A5 between Gailey and Cannock where A5 Trucks top is. Lots of land round there some brownfield but not that accessible for many. 

Lots of old industrial sites and brownfield sites between Monmore and Birmingham New Road on Monmore side of town but that's likely been considered and ditched. 

Really left field is Wolverhampton City Airport formerly Halfpenny Green old RAF base that did stage big Grass Track Meeting in early 1980 period, very inaccessible again for many. 

[magnificentseven 236]

5 hours ago, DJWolves said:

The owners of Monmore Green, Entain, are in a joint venture with ARC who own a number of horse racing venues including Dunstall Park in Wolverhampton. Plans are now emerging to build a greyhound track at Dunstall Park which would almost certainly lead to the Monmore Green site being redeveloped for housing.

The joint venture covers Media Rights rather than the Stadium Project.

The Dunstall Park Venture is to take the Perry Barr Greyhounds there, closing Perry Barr altogether to build on there.

Entain would keep Monmore under their ownership.

There would be 2 Greyhound Stadia in Wolverhampton owned by 2 different companies with no speedway at Monmore Green and Birmingham Speedway closing as well.

Neither Company is too bothered about attendances at Greyhound meetings as they get the majority of their income from streaming the races.

 

[Wolfie456 501]

42 minutes ago, HGould said:

No chance of Speedway at Dunstall Park Horse Racing Track. 

It's surrounded on 2 sides by Housing and you drive through housing estate to get in. 

South Staffs would include areas between Wombourne, Penn and Finchfield along the road out it Bridgnorth, too rural I'd suggest and inaccessible for anyone without a car

One area that might work is the A5 between Gailey and Cannock where A5 Trucks top is. Lots of land round there some brownfield but not that accessible for many. 

Lots of old industrial sites and brownfield sites between Monmore and Birmingham New Road on Monmore side of town but that's likely been considered and ditched. 

Really left field is Wolverhampton City Airport formerly Halfpenny Green old RAF base that did stage big Grass Track Meeting in early 1980 period, very inaccessible again for many. 

Its the dogs moving to Dunstall Park not speedway