Belle Vue 2023

[PhilTheAce 498]

2 hours ago, Tommy Sweetman said:

Wolves would bonkers to let Douglas go on the average he finished with.Wasnt always great at Monmore,but more than held his own on the bigger away tracks.Suppose there's always the possibility he wants a change though .

The trouble with Douglas is he don’t like change so staying at wolves will be his preferred option 

[IronScorpion 1,407]

13 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

The trouble with Douglas is he don’t like change so staying at wolves will be his preferred option 

Although he stayed at Scunthorpe for his first 5 years, that was based on the type of visa he had. After not qualifying in 2018, he had a very good winter in Australia having a lot of training sessions with advice from Darcy Ward & Davey Watt. He was advised to ride on more technical tracks & came back to ride at Leicester & Wolves in 2019 & 2021 achieving better averages away from home. This year has been a revelation for him with being in the top 10 averages in the PL & top 5 in the CL. Moving back to Scunthorpe & racing in Poland has moved him to another level but still adapting to the track at Wolves.

A lot this next year(2023) will depend on the rules in Poland but I can see him moving up a league to Lige1 in Poland, racing on Saturdays/Sundays but still keeping the level of racing in Britain, if it allows. He has improved this year & earned some good money so why make a change if it is not broke!

[Falcon1983 557]

42.5 building limit potnetially so even if there is no rising star, you're likely to still need to use one in most sides 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706]

18 hours ago, mikebv said:

A steal....

However...

You never know what regs may get made up to increase that to a six...

 

17 hours ago, ABS said:

In the interests of Speedway, no doubt.

In the interest of fair assessment perhaps

[mikebv 10,292]

11 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

 

In the interest of fair assessment perhaps

Fait point....

As he hasn't rode over here for 3 years he really ought to be downgraded to a 4 point assessed man...

Only if he signs for the Aces obviously.....

[ouch 1,191]

1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

 

In the interest of fair assessment perhaps

I’d be very surprised if there wasn’t a rule change re Jaimon as even though he’s only missed two seasons his low average for Belle Vue will not go down well with BSPL bosses. Imagine us trying to sign the world champion on a 7.00, that would never happen, especially if it was just for the play offs. 

[HGould 2,213]

That in a nutshell sums up ALL that is wrong with BSPL and British Speedway.

Belle Vue bought him over, presumably made him an asset, invested in him, as dod local sponsors etc.

He then sought to further his delelopment elsewhere outside the UK whilst remaining loyal to BV as an asset.

IF BV want to bring him back then he should be on his perfectly correct and earned average. That's life, that's sport, that should be speedway.

NOT factor it by a mystery number drawn up on the back of a Scunthorpe Rain Off Ticket to appease Bates and Louis or anyone else.

The whole point of the asset system is to build talent isn't it?

If it gives BV an advantage, so what, may be it will make a few others a bit less lazy and try to make things happen rather than moan when nothing good happens to them.

This is what INDEPENDENT GOVERNANCE would bring.

Fairness for ALL, and reward for enterprise. 

 

[PhilTheAce 498]

He won’t have his average changed. Don’t worry. 
like if anyone wants Zmarzlik. He would be an 8 point average. They won’t change that 

Edited September 30, 2022 by PhilTheAce

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706]

2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

He won’t have his average changed. Don’t worry. 
luke if anyone wants Zmarzlik. He would be an 8 point average. They won’t change that 

I'm sure they won't and in some ways that's correct as there are very few examples to date that have been amended

Makes a mockery of having a points limit though when an obvious discrepancy can skew the mix

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706]

2 hours ago, HGould said:

 

Belle Vue bought him over, presumably made him an asset, invested in him, as dod local sponsors etc.

He then sought to further his delelopment elsewhere outside the UK whilst remaining loyal to BV as an asset.

IF BV want to bring him back then he should be on his perfectly correct and earned average. That's life, that's sport, that should be speedway.

The " he sought to further his development elsewhere " says it all

There is no loyalty to BV as an asset - he has no choice under the current system

There is no loyalty to British Speedway

If he has now "developed further" then that should be reflected

[NSS1 41]

if Lambert was ready to sign for the Aces obviously on his last british average 7.5 ish ? he could easily replace zagar next season who has a higher average !! so we would be reducing for a better rider !! along with Dan also  what great 2 signings that would be !! not much difference between them two and max & zagar in averages ? this would be subject to the poles relaxing the rules ??? wait & see time but that would be something to look forward to so i would like to see Bewley/ Lambert / Brennan/ Blodorn / Rew final 2 depending on what's left after they announce team average ???

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706]

2 hours ago, NSS1 said:

if Lambert was ready to sign for the Aces obviously on his last british average 7.5 ish ? he could easily replace zagar next season who has a higher average !! so we would be reducing for a better rider !! along with Dan also  what great 2 signings that would be !! not much difference between them two and max & zagar in averages ? this would be subject to the poles relaxing the rules ??? wait & see time but that would be something to look forward to so i would like to see Bewley/ Lambert / Brennan/ Blodorn / Rew final 2 depending on what's left after they announce team average ???

Bewley and Lamber now world top 10 so should be reassed to 9 each

Rew has foreign league experience- should be a 6

 

 

[NSS1 41]

18 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Bewley and Lamber now world top 10 so should be reassed to 9 each

Rew has foreign league experience- should be a 6

 

 

Shoulda woulda coulda bewley would be coming back on his 9.8 average and Lambert 7.5 ish like what was agreed on before he got stopped rew will be a 4 pointer simple 

[NSS1 41]

22 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Bewley and Lamber now world top 10 so should be reassed to 9 each

Rew has foreign league experience- should be a 6

 

 

So is that Ipswich did with doyle ? Answer NO but its b/vue let's bump there average up 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706]

2 hours ago, NSS1 said:

Shoulda woulda coulda bewley would be coming back on his 9.8 average and Lambert 7.5 ish like what was agreed on before he got stopped rew will be a 4 pointer simple 

 

2 hours ago, NSS1 said:

So is that Ipswich did with doyle ? Answer NO but its b/vue let's bump there average up 

I was being facetious 

I'd love to see then both back and wouldn't want to see anything to prevent that wherever they are

Rew would also be a great addition to the league