POOLE 2023

[Skidder1 7,651]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

 

That can't have been the plan as they were 2 points above the 42 limit & Thomas has a similar average to Kemp?

Pooles final average less the 2.5% Brit reduction was 42.28 (with Kemp on 5.20) so only .28 to lose before the 42 became 40 points.

(Thomas 4.48; Newman 4.29)

[lisa-colette 6,040]

31 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

Pooles final average less the 2.5% Brit reduction was 42.28 (with Kemp on 5.20) so only .28 to lose before the 42 became 40 points.

(Thomas 4.48; Newman 4.29)

Thought Jack Thomas was 4.78 with reduction?

[Fromafar 10,395]

2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Certainly disagree with you greatly about Thomas. Started 2021 as a 3 point something reserve & ended up about 5. Then in 2022 kept his average after moving into the top 5 (in an injury hit season).

Clearly on his way up imo & a good signing for Poole.

As for Roynon looking at his average for Scunny in the Speedway Star (includes bonus points) 4.35, with a 4.89 away ave!

Your certainly entitled to disagree.No problem with me.

[Skidder1 7,651]

8 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Thought Jack Thomas was 4.78 with reduction?

Yes you're correct LC. Fingers faster than brain!!

[lisa-colette 6,040]

4 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Yes you're correct LC. Fingers faster than brain!!

Haha. Well the main thing is that team would fit in a 42 point limit as long as you apply the British reductions. 

[IronScorpion 1,407]

19 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

According to the Speedway Star this week Newman was always in Plan A with Ablitt until the points limit dropped by 2 points (and there was an issue with a certain 5 point rider!!)

 

18 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Interesting as I assumed plan A was pretty much last year's team but with Jack Thomas instead of Drew.

Danny Ford has said that the 42 point limit brought in for 2022 was a 2 year plan(Ha! - promoters change again) & his intention was to keep all 3 Heat Leaders. Only when the later gatherings at Rugby was this changed & he had to let one of them go.

[STEVEHOLS54 380]

33 minutes ago, IronScorpion said:

 

Danny Ford has said that the 42 point limit brought in for 2022 was a 2 year plan(Ha! - promoters change again) & his intention was to keep all 3 Heat Leaders. Only when the later gatherings at Rugby was this changed & he had to let one of them go.

So how come Danny said he had informed the team who would and wouldn't be retained in 2023 incl Danny King PRIOR to the delayed second leg of the final against Leicester. That meeting was on 5th Nov before the Rugby AGM. He mentioned it had been a difficult decision to have to make.

Believe this was partly why Kemp had such a strop on because he had already been informed he would not be part of the team in 2023. I believe Danny told the whole team prior to that meeting on 5th Nov that difficult decisions had to be made due to a reduced team points limit and he had been forced to make changes.

Of course I could of misunderstood and as they were at 1.03 over the old 42 points that Kemp was the rider chosen to drop, but not how I read it at the time.

[lisa-colette 6,040]

6 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

So how come Danny said he had informed the team who would and wouldn't be retained in 2023 incl Danny King PRIOR to the delayed second leg of the final against Leicester. That meeting was on 5th Nov before the Rugby AGM. He mentioned it had been a difficult decision to have to make.

Believe this was partly why Kemp had such a strop on because he had already been informed he would not be part of the team in 2023. I believe Danny told the whole team prior to that meeting on 5th Nov that difficult decisions had to be made due to a reduced team points limit and he had been forced to make changes.

Of course I could of misunderstood and as they were at 1.03 over the old 42 points that Kemp was the rider chosen to drop, but not how I read it at the time.

DK mentioned in this interview on Redcar FB that he wasn't prepared to wait to see if he was in. He wanted an answer straight away, whereas I am assuming Poole wanted to hold off til AGM. 

[Skidder1 7,651]

4 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

So how come Danny said he had informed the team who would and wouldn't be retained in 2023 incl Danny King PRIOR to the delayed second leg of the final against Leicester. That meeting was on 5th Nov before the Rugby AGM. He mentioned it had been a difficult decision to have to make.

Believe this was partly why Kemp had such a strop on because he had already been informed he would not be part of the team in 2023. I believe Danny told the whole team prior to that meeting on 5th Nov that difficult decisions had to be made due to a reduced team points limit and he had been forced to make changes.

Of course I could of misunderstood and as they were at 1.03 over the old 42 points that Kemp was the rider chosen to drop, but not how I read it at the time.

I understand the discussion about reducing the points limit to 40 was held at a BSPL Board meeting held on the day of the Championship Pairs at Oxford in August.

Despite some substantial lobbying (not least by Poole and Glasgow) the reduction to 40 was ratified at the AGM,

[szkocjasid 3,070]

On 1/19/2023 at 8:15 PM, szkocjasid said:

 

That can't have been the plan as they were 2 points above the 42 limit & Thomas has a similar average to Kemp?

 

On 1/19/2023 at 9:55 PM, lisa-colette said:

If you do the British reductions I make not much over 42. So Jack for Drew fits. 

Jack is around 0.4 lower.

I must have been remembering my Poole predictions on a 40 limit, not 42

[Skidder1 7,651]

21 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

So how come Danny said he had informed the team who would and wouldn't be retained in 2023 incl Danny King PRIOR to the delayed second leg of the final against Leicester. That meeting was on 5th Nov before the Rugby AGM. He mentioned it had been a difficult decision to have to make.

Believe this was partly why Kemp had such a strop on because he had already been informed he would not be part of the team in 2023. I believe Danny told the whole team prior to that meeting on 5th Nov that difficult decisions had to be made due to a reduced team points limit and he had been forced to make changes.

Of course I could of misunderstood and as they were at 1.03 over the old 42 points that Kemp was the rider chosen to drop, but not how I read it at the time.

Disappointing update from young Tate...

Tate Zischke Racing #31· 

 

Terrible news for my 2023 season.  Some of you may already know I had a bad crash at the Australian titles in Adelaide where I suffered some head injuries, after a handful of doctors appointments and meetings with specialists it is not possible for me to get a clearance to ride for 6 months. This is because of the seizures I had on and off the track. This means I will not be heading to Europe until the end of June. Definitely not how I wanted to start this year but it is what it is and I can’t do anything about it. I will use this time off to get stronger mentally and physically.

Its gunna be a long 6 months 

[IronScorpion 1,407]

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Disappointing update from young Tate...

Tate Zischke Racing #31· 

 

Terrible news for my 2023 season.  Some of you may already know I had a bad crash at the Australian titles in Adelaide where I suffered some head injuries, after a handful of doctors appointments and meetings with specialists it is not possible for me to get a clearance to ride for 6 months. This is because of the seizures I had on and off the track. This means I will not be heading to Europe until the end of June. Definitely not how I wanted to start this year but it is what it is and I can’t do anything about it. I will use this time off to get stronger mentally and physically.

Its gunna be a long 6 months 

Similar circumstances to Jordan Palin, another young, upcoming rider, who is having to take a year out due to a head injury(bleed on the brain) 

[STEVEHOLS54 380]

3 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Disappointing update from young Tate...

Tate Zischke Racing #31· 

 

Terrible news for my 2023 season.  Some of you may already know I had a bad crash at the Australian titles in Adelaide where I suffered some head injuries, after a handful of doctors appointments and meetings with specialists it is not possible for me to get a clearance to ride for 6 months. This is because of the seizures I had on and off the track. This means I will not be heading to Europe until the end of June. Definitely not how I wanted to start this year but it is what it is and I can’t do anything about it. I will use this time off to get stronger mentally and physically.

Its gunna be a long 6 months 

Genuinely gutted for the guy.

Means he will miss at least 11/12 of the 18 regular league meetings in the POL Exl U24 league season plus what he misses in that DK Lge 1 (the league below Danish Prem).

I wonder if the Ford's may open discussions with him bearing in mind we don't even start our Champ meetings until 24th May and will only have ridden 2 Lge meetings before the 3rd on 12th July. 

Having said that he will need to get meetings and confidence back after what happened. Showed incredible talent in those 4 meetings I saw videos of him racing in the NSW U21 which he won followed by his runner up slot in the Aussie U21 - a decent individual meeting, and then  culminating in 3rd place in the one off Aussie Champ meeting of 2022 where he got injured in that freak accident when he clipped Sedgeman's bike after the finish line in the final.

Still wouldn't dampen my opinion of him though as talent is ultimately talent.

Can't race but MAYBE can still keep his fitness and ride/practice  just to keep his confidence on a bike.

[Starman2006 2,356]

I read the usual dregs are pulling the team to pieces already. I wonder what they will be saying when we do the same again this season.
My guess, nothing. Chin up.

[Pauldoveyspeedway 144]

On 1/19/2023 at 10:32 PM, lisa-colette said:

Thought Jack Thomas was 4.78 with reduction?

Thort Kemp did ok for Poole last year ...Did they not want him because  of his 5+ave ?????