Fromafar 10,378 Posted October 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gazc said: Clubs will struggle to justify £20 admission for another dilution of the points limit. That’s my thoughts,but you can bet there won’t be reduced admission prices. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,378 Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, GS550 said: But these days a quid is only worth 20p or maybe 30p so on that score 20 quid is only about a fiver in auld money. It’s not what it’s worth it’s whether you have it to spare though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,783 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GS550 said: Going by what others have said about the rule then no, the minimum 3 rides becomes 4 if eligible to take one of the R/R rides - its one R/R ride per each of the 4 eligible riders, don't think one rider can take 2 R/R rides, has to be one each so that would include another ride for Ace as part of his minimum set of rides - unless withdrawn from the meeting. If it's a reserve he can take all four R/R rides, just three of them would be a reserve switch, rather than R/R, he would then only have three of his four programmed rides. Edited October 4, 2023 by StevePark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noelinho 924 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, StevePark said: If it's a reserve he can take all four R/R rides, just three of them would be a reserve switch, rather than R/R, he would then only have three of his four programmed rides. Great, that’s what I thought. You are ever-reliable with the nuance of the rules. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandit59 1,151 Posted October 4, 2023 58 minutes ago, Gazc said: Clubs will struggle to justify £20 admission for another dilution of the points limit. Happens season after season less points for teams more cash for the supporters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted October 4, 2023 the number 8 jack could have taken any RR rides and if ace had pulled out after his first fall pretty sure jack could have taken all his rides under IRR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinBSN 617 Posted October 5, 2023 9 hours ago, mac101 said: the number 8 jack could have taken any RR rides and if ace had pulled out after his first fall pretty sure jack could have taken all his rides under IRR The AR can now take any ride I believe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,988 Posted October 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, MartinBSN said: The AR can now take any ride I believe Almost any ride! SR 012.4.4 f) A rider nominated as an AR may, at the Team Managers discretion, take any ride at any time in heats 1-14, apart from the protected riders position in heats 2 and 8. Whilst the minimum ride rule does not apply, the maximum number of rides is 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinBSN 617 Posted October 5, 2023 49 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Almost any ride! SR 012.4.4 f) A rider nominated as an AR may, at the Team Managers discretion, take any ride at any time in heats 1-14, apart from the protected riders position in heats 2 and 8. Whilst the minimum ride rule does not apply, the maximum number of rides is 7. It’s pretty mad they can’t be used in a protected heat when they have to be under a 4 point average anyway, the kind of rider a protected heat is aimed at! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,046 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: Almost any ride! SR 012.4.4 f) A rider nominated as an AR may, at the Team Managers discretion, take any ride at any time in heats 1-14, apart from the protected riders position in heats 2 and 8. Whilst the minimum ride rule does not apply, the maximum number of rides is 7. Heat 8 isn't a protected heat, both number 2 & 7 could be replaced by the number 6. Sounds more like a Prem ruling? I suppose heat 8 is protected against tac subs, which is a tad pointless, as it would have been legal for Basso & Nicholls to race at number 2 (wouldn't happen I know) plus clubs don't have to put their weakest reserve at 7 & even if they do, can still drop him from that heat. Edited October 5, 2023 by szkocjasid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noelinho 924 Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Heat 8 isn't a protected heat, both number 2 & 7 could be replaced by the number 6. Sounds more like a Prem ruling? My understanding was protected heats are a Premiership/Rising Star thing, and not applicable in the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,046 Posted October 5, 2023 Just now, Noelinho said: My understanding was protected heats are a Premiership/Rising Star thing, and not applicable in the Championship. That would make sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheWellBehavedWorrall 289 Posted October 5, 2023 I still can’t get over that pop from the crowd when Complin took Kerr wide and allowed Brennan through for a heat fourteen 5-1. I thought those atmospheres were saved for Ibrox and Celtic Park in Glasgow. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joseq7 363 Posted October 5, 2023 22 hours ago, GS550 said: Yes minimum 3 rides, but it becomes 4 when also eligible for an R/R ride for the absent Vissing. You're both right and wrong here........I think! Lee could, in theory, take all 4 rider replacement rides, as a reserve. Obviously he technically wouldn't as that would be Lee's 4 programmed plus Lee taking all 4 RRs = 8. So if Lee took all 4 RRs then Ace would need to take one of Lee's programmed rides which would end up Ace having 5 rides on the night, which wasn't wanted. So I think you're right that Ace was compelled, on that night, to take his 4 programmed rides, at least but he wasn't compelled to take any RR rides. Happy for anyone to contradict. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,988 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, GS550 said: Yes minimum 3 rides, but it becomes 4 when also eligible for an R/R ride for the absent Vissing. There is no such rule, the minimum three ride rule applies to a rider and it is up to the team manager to allocate the RR rides and any reserve switches to the best advantage. Edited October 5, 2023 by NeilWatson 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites