Bagpuss 10,780 Posted October 29, 2023 Yep, Barker definitely > Hume. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERACE 440 Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 7:02 AM, Phil The Ace said: He said he will be ready for start of the season last night at the maugers Interesting, I didn't expect that tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue witch 46 Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 7:35 AM, Arch Stanton said: If you’re starting with a blank canvas then sure, but just going off the Ellis rumour it leaves 4.16 for a sixth rider IF the limit is confirmed at 40 for six riders at the AGM. Emil, Doyle, King, Ellis, Rew leaves a 4.16 gap. Personally I’d take Barker over Hume (both fit) all day long. Looking at the Green Sheets, only options appear to be Rowe, Kemp, Hume and Barker. Who would you go for? Let’s not forget Barker is popular with the management here, apparently he’s great in the pits and is a good team man. He’d soon swap with Rew after the first set of averages and I think he’d score decent enough points at reserve. Edit: This is the Belle Vue thread not Ipswich, apologies. I can't see Rowe or Kemp as surely we would've used them last year as rising star. I would go Barker over Hume imo I don't think he'd chuck away as many points as Hume does when he comes under pressure from opposing riders. Unless they punt for another 4 point assessed average man? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishersGate 522 Posted November 8, 2023 Interesting news that brennan will not be riding for belle vue next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERACE 440 Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, FishersGate said: Interesting news that brennan will not be riding for belle vue next year We new that would be the case, victim of the averages unfortunately. Been great for the Aces, wish him good luck for next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBP 66 Posted November 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: We new that would be the case, victim of the averages unfortunately. Been great for the Aces, wish him good luck for next year. Agree with your post I would say however that at the tail end of the season Imo the travelling got to him a little and his form dipped a bit. next year he is riding in four leagues which will add even more travelling to his schedule this is on top of sgp qualifications rounds and riding for GB be interesting how he copes and if it affects his form with his new club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coventry_Bee 467 Posted November 8, 2023 I do find the use of averages still a completely unnecessary system where teams that are successful are ripped apart. Teams are built to a decimal off the daft points limit and then we see multiple team changes throughout the year. Riders should be graded and throw the calculators in the bin. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,017 Posted November 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: We new that would be the case, victim of the averages unfortunately. Been great for the Aces, wish him good luck for next year. A victim of fighting with your team mates maybe? I've always thought Brennan comes across really well with his public persona but now he's been binned off by Glasgow & Belle Vue 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therefused 819 Posted November 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Coventry_Bee said: I do find the use of averages still a completely unnecessary system where teams that are successful are ripped apart. Teams are built to a decimal off the daft points limit and then we see multiple team changes throughout the year. Riders should be graded and throw the calculators in the bin. so instead of using a fair method of an average based on their actual form, you want everyone to be graded which isn't fair way at all? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therefused 819 Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, iainb said: A victim of fighting with your team mates maybe? I've always thought Brennan comes across really well with his public persona but now he's been binned off by Glasgow & Belle Vue I think he has probably reached his peak 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marky_Mark 55 Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak Absolute nonsense! Can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. Why are we so good at writing off our own young talent in this country 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak Absolutely ridiculous notion when you consider that he is 22 and racing in an era when many riders peak over 30 (Freddie Lindgren 38 this year for example), and has markedly improved his average every year including the current one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERACE 440 Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak At 22 give over. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,780 Posted November 8, 2023 5 hours ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak Not for me Geoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,027 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Coventry_Bee said: I do find the use of averages still a completely unnecessary system where teams that are successful are ripped apart. Teams are built to a decimal off the daft points limit and then we see multiple team changes throughout the year. Riders should be graded and throw the calculators in the bin. Not sure that would be any better, let's say for example 9.00 = grade A, 8.00 = grade B, 7.00 = grade C etc. An 8.99 rider is the same grade as an 8.00 rider. But a 7.99 rider is a whole grade below 8.00. Doesn't matter where the cut-off is, some riders would become far more valuable than others! The use of averages certainly has it's flaws, but it's the best system available imo. Edited November 8, 2023 by szkocjasid 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
