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  1. It's very interesting for me to read lots of these post about the "the decline of speedway" and to be honest I learn from them - so thank you. Martin and I are quite an open book where our speedway is concerned and I have to say that whether you agree with me or not, speedway on the Isle of Wight is in anything but decline, its thriving. Our crowds, while yes relatively small, are 6 - 8 fold the last promotions when it ran, and our meeting on meeting, like for like up with the exception of a couple of meetings when we had to run on a Tuesday increasing. Our crowd integration is increasing, our profile growing (the fact we are even discussed on here says something about that), Sponsorship continues to grow - but as any club we always welcome more, we do lots of shows and the feedback is tremendous, we monitor feedback from the fans all the time and we are proud to share it. Why talk down something which is clearly working. The demographic of our fan base has totally changed in the 3 years we have been at the helm.. we have more families at the stadium now, we have lots of youngsters and our senior fans love it. They know that speedway is changing, and it has to become a show and every promoter should continually try to improve their show week on week. We have an SDL team and the majority of fans stay to watch both meetings when we cannot integrate them into the main event. Our speedway school consistently sells out and we need to do more of them both on the mainland and on the Island. Would we like another 1000 on the gate, you bet... but how do I make them come to our stadium to watch speedway or for more sponsors to get involved?? It's by positive word of mouth, by positive reflection of the events we put on, its by staging weekly speedway without fail, it's by providing fan interaction, a clean stadium, value, being welcomed, being seen, promoting, self belief, trust in your product, thinking outside the box, looking to tomorrow not just today, allowing people to be part of it... but most of all it's by providing a fun packed family night out that people are proud and pleased to invite their friends to as opposed to feel odd because they watch a sport called speedway which no one knows of. The choice of speedway's future isn't only down to promoters, the BSPA, the SCB or ACU... it's down to us all, and while I welcome lively debate and feedback is always welcome we must look at the bigger picture of "passive aggression" - it's a phrase I came across in my working life where the strength of talking something down or negatively destroying something good becomes to strong to change - so it never changes. Speedway is very close to this now. All I can honestly tell you is that we are so proud of what we deliver, we are not afraid to hear something which is not how it should be, we are mindful of the spiralling costs which comes from many different angles, we are mindful of our investment of money, time, our families, but most of all, we absolutely love our show, we believe totally in our product, our team, our approach, we want to develop riders but also have to put on a professional show. It is the only way clubs like us can attract sponsors, fans, tourists, riders and for our families to allow us to continue what we do. 3 referees this year have grabbed me after to say “that’s the best speedway meeting I have been to all year…..” in my view not because the racing is any different of course because of the energy of the night, the feel good factor, the positivity, the well….its a bloody great show, that’s why. I will apologise in advance for the typo's and spelling errors, if you come to the Island do come and say hello to me, I am always in yellow and blue. Finally, your club needs positive and constructive feedback…..saying its crap or not like it used to be – may get it off your chest but will not help deliver change or progress in my view. Keep it wound on and see you trackside and if you want to try speedway book in with My First Skid.
    16 points
  2. Having had my preference for Isle of Wight speedway raised, I can give a few reasons why that is. The other teams named are merely examples, as others do exactly the same thing. 1 Edinburgh charge full price for a rain off programme with an insert. That's a rip off. At Isle of Wight, they are free with a request that the cost is replaced by a go on the raffle or a contribution to the tyre fund. 2 A child's entry at Poole is either £4 or £7, depending on their age. At Isle of Wight, they are free. 3 Sheffield charge £15 (I think that amount is correct) for a go on the centre green. At Isle of Wight its (you guessed it) free, and that applies to home and away supporters. On Thursday, a group of Mildenhall fans watched heat 1 from the middle. 4 I once criticised the state of Stoke's track and got 15 minutes of aggressive abuse in response. I did the same about Isle of Wight, got an apology, a reasoned explanation and a hope that I would come back. 5 Belle Vue charge £7 for a burger and chips. By all accounts, they are 'horrible' (or words to that effect, I have never had one myself). At Isle of Wight on Thursday, I had a plate of home made sausage casserole and a lump of bread for £3.50. It was that good I over-indulged in second helpings. 6 King's Lynn refuse to allow food in and indeed threaten to search people to prevent it. On Thursday, a large family brought in an equally large hamper, sat on the grass on the first bend and watched the racing having a picnic including wine. 7 I stand to be corrected here, but I have never seen Eastbourne undertake any promotional activities. Isle of Wight attend about a dozen shows a year during the season with their tent, bikes and other speedway paraphernalia. 8 At most meetings, promoter Barry Bishop works the crowd, talking, explaining but above all listening. Belle Vue's Adrian Smith does this but aside from one instance years ago by Peter Toogood I have never seen anyone else do the same. 9 At Birmingham, a lengthy interval is just that so you stand around getting cold and bored. Isle of Wight have running and bike races for the youngsters, interviews and rider autograph and picture sessions. 10 We have all stood around when a rider has been injured and there has been a delay. Isle of Wight, last season, organised activities for the youngsters until the racing recommenced. Never seen that anywhere else. 11 At the Mildenhall - Isle of Wight meeting last season, the start was delayed on a red hot day. Riders then took out bottles of cold water to those stuck outside. Fantastic idea, but it didn't come from Mildenhall. 12 Finally, there's the amazing story of Ann Barrett- the speedway fan who couldn't get to the track because of her disability but went into her garden to listen to the bikes. The promotion heard about it, and now she gets a taxi to the stadium reach week and a sponsor has supplied a season ticket. That's just fantastic. All of that added up - and I am sure I can think of more given time - is impressive and accounts for the opinions that people have of what has been achieved on the Island.
    12 points
  3. The final at Wembley of the 1973 Daily Mirror International Speedway Tournament is my ultimate favorite Speedway meeting of all-time ! http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/tourdmit73.htm How I wish we could have a proper Speedway World Cup Tournament along these lines every four years ! This Meeting has all that I love about the sport. After 19 days of a round-robin tournament with twenty-one meetings held at tracks all over the country with the world's top seven international teams, followed by two semi-finals, the top two of England and Sweden met for the Grand Finale of this wonderful tournment at the greatest of all speedway venues, Wembley, with a fantastic crowd in attendance. Even the tv coverage of this event is better than most of today's often drawn out live coverage, there are no boring breaks between the races, no restarts and warnings for riders moving at the tapes, it is action all the way in a condensed form that keeps everyone's attention high. The introduction of the Swedish and English team riders is beautifully shown before the racing commences. There is no track grading shown and no need for mostly boring interviews with the riders, to fill any gaps between the heats. Commentators Lanning and Briggs make this TV show even more enjoyable to watch. The sound of the old-style speedway bikes (plus the unmistakable smell of the burnt Castrol X oil), engines roaring majestically deep, instead of today's unpleasantly shrill sound, and the 13-heat format (remember: Happiness is 40-38!), and the main event to be followed by a full second half's racing which offered some variety for the spectators. This is all so damned good, I wonder why oh why they ever gave it up for what we have come to today. Poor fools we all are, to have let our once proud Sport go to pieces! Today's speedway promoters and TV producers could learn a lot from how they did it back in 1973 !
    6 points
  4. The amount of rain we have had here this last week, we were lucky to even get the meeting on, track not the best but as said on Comets Facebook it was under water yesterday morning , so credit where it’s due. Witches a bit disappointing, thought Covatti would have been better he looked quite classy on telly for Somerset, Heeps their best rider. Fab result for our guys, Nicola and Ty sealing the meeting in heat 13 leaving witches to get two 5-1’s in last two heats. Another step closer to the playoffs . Well done boys
    5 points
  5. Congratulations to Robert Lambert podium finish last night in the SEC
    5 points
  6. Why? Because you love to have a dig, cos you dislike the club so much, cos you want the club to finish, cos you think you can do a better job than the current management, cos you have nothing better to do, what is it?
    4 points
  7. Surely there will be people taking money for the second meeting so if I pay 27 pounds couldn't I get 9 pounds back after the first meeting?
    4 points
  8. The same as what he scores. No doubles. I was at the meeting with my Gems team and throughly enjoyed the racing, but sadly in front of a poor crowd. Tricky first corner with ridges causing some problems. Schlein was holding his right knee with a wad of cotton wool and was in some distress. County ambulance was cancelled and Rory was put into the medical room and that freed up the ambulance to allow the last 2 heats to be concluded. At 9.20, immediately after heat 15 the NJL riders were wheeled out, and succeeded in getting all 6 races in by 9.55pm and beating the deadline by 5 minutes. Thanks to all for their hospitality and the cooperation of all, and especially Tony Jackson, for helping to speed things up so that the fans and riders got their full fill of meetings/rides. Tidy second half with the Gems winning 21-15 with some good battles.
    4 points
  9. If any team deserves to be there, yours definitely does.
    4 points
  10. Exactly! And there are people who choose not too. And that’s fair enough. Each to their own but I just wish they would stop bleating on about it as if anybody cares. Wednesday could still be 2 very good speedway meetings and 6 points. Could also be a train wreck but such is life. Such is speedway.
    4 points
  11. It's funny Trees,but we hadn't heard Haza for while until there is something a little bit negative to be heard about the club.Now we can't get rid of him
    3 points
  12. Firstly I must say it was nice to meet jenga and scarramanga. Pretty close meeting score wise nearly all the way through, until the last couple of races. Worky have a very solid team and look to have a rider in every race that could win the race. Was hoping ipswich would get a point at least, but finally missed out on that at the end. I know I have knocked Cameron Heeps plenty of times this season, but last night he really was fantastic, he looked fast and smooth all evening, when a few others struggled a bit. Also thought coty was excellent, maybe helped by the Danny King race suit. A few awkward looking falls for Rory mark and quest Worral. Rory crash looked particularly nasty as it looked like maybe he got his foot in a rut? All in all Worky deserved their win. And i must repeat Cameron Heeps was fantastic, that's the real rider we know he can be and is. Funny moment of the night, the mascot not being able to put what looked like an American football between the rugby post after a fair few attempts, only for what looked like one of the start a start line girl do in one attempt.
    3 points
  13. i think the glasgow followers have decreased quite a lot. not many travel, now that their season has about finished . the honeymoon period is over . last night we were lucky to get the meeting to the finish as the weather was very threatening . but the marras threatened the weather even more . 3 points towards the holy grail . lets hope the team , the supporters and the management get to the finish line . it was nice to see a forum user from down soooth @ workington . . stood with us and a very ,very nice chap , welcome anytime marra . any rider who took falls/knocks , i hope they recover quickly . inc Rory ! on a . final note , drew kemp looks an outstanding prospect . his wee battle with kyle has done them both good . he was very near to the 3rd man for points and ippo need to keep hold of him and not let the Glasgow magnet draw drew north of the border .
    3 points
  14. A brilliant ethos and I sincerely hope it continues forever. If I look back there are many Promotors who started their careers with such admirable qualities but allowed the red mist of win at all costs to cloud their judgement over the years. Poole were great at it, so were Peterborough under Rick and Julie, Len Silver always valued his customers until they consistently battered him on social media, Scunthorpe was a fabulous day out when it was in the lower tier (racing is still good) but aspirations of success and elevation bring cost challenges just to keep up with the Jones's and soon enough the viability is threatened and the focus moves from your type of ethos to win, win, win or I've got to stop bleeding out of the rse and cut costs. Please don't get drawn into that swamp, the newts will all turn into alligators come the AGM and you'll need more than your old survival suit!
    3 points
  15. Whilst many others have found other things to do after getting peed off with what happened in/to the sport and now go bowling, pass the light summer evenings in their gardens or allotments, play walking football, do any amount of things they found happen whilst they've been attending speedway meetings all around the world in the past. Not all older people who quit watching speedway are ready to sit and vegetate at home!
    3 points
  16. You would make a good promoter. Ever thought that if the VFM was improved that crowds would increase? its not rocket science - make it a consistently enjoyable value for money evening of speedway and not continually diluting the product (and raising prices) and I am sure that those who no longer go (including myself) will look to return!
    3 points
  17. Call it bleating moaning being negative and to the other extreme those who wear blinkers and see no wrong call whatever you want but everyone has a right to an opinion including the ones that have walked away - and yes I’m so hopeful of things improving to a point I want to attend again but so far I chose to keep my hard earned cash in my pocket- how can anyone defend a 7team league and struggle to fit fixtures in to a point that we have to run double headers against the same bloody team on the same night how can any one defend that ? To me that total miss management weeks with no racing in the best summer weather for years and now it’s come to this .
    3 points
  18. Not a bad performance. Add in Robert Lambert and we would have been a lot closer to second. Considering "the sport is dying" and the number of nails in the coffin, there is actually a decent future for the country at national level, if we can continue to give them support, guidance and leadership. Runners-up at senior level, third at U21 level and a possible world individual champion. We've had worse seasons!
    3 points
  19. Dream season and ‘Teterow’ is part of someone’s dream!!!As well as Terenzano....I am almost speechless lol
    2 points
  20. Protasiewicz certainly couldn't be faulted in heat 5. Superb ride.
    2 points
  21. Absolutely brilliant and that is what a team World Cup should be. Seven riders and a knock out tournament. No messing about at the start and a passionate crowd. I remember going to the round at Hackney and it was Russia but for the life of me I cannot remember the opponents but the stadium was packed. Oh happy days and if only they would give the same format a try today.
    2 points
  22. Went to the New Zealand v Australia meeting at Plough Lane.Bit of a thrashing for the Aussies(Crump was out for the season and Airey wasn't really the rider of old) with a few Plough Lane experts in the line-up.Sadly now Ivan and Ronnie are no longer with us and neither is the stadium.NZ will never see their likes again and neither will London
    2 points
  23. Oh the same no doubles, thank you. Please can you pass that on to the Sheffield management as they made a right balls of the scoring when they were there last time (so I'm told) losing by 6 points and convinced it was only 3 and thought they were in with a chance of winning so put everybody at risk in the blind slop and persisting rain just 'cos they don't know the rules and couldn't add up!
    2 points
  24. Don't you just love a good conspiracy theory.
    2 points
  25. There are those that like to stick the knife in at every opportunity.
    2 points
  26. Stadia UK are pure Bovine excrement. IMHO they have no intention of building a new stadium. They pulled a flanker over Swindon council, when they got them to amend the building restrictions, allowing them to build houses before the stadium was built. Once that happened, game over.
    2 points
  27. I forgot one. Barry Bishop engages with us on here and treats us as potential paying customers and speedway fans. Aside from Jayne Moss, he's the only one.
    2 points
  28. Yes, I too have been giving my honest forthright opinion for the last three years because I too DO care. I care very much about KLS. I have been a supporter since the first time the track opened to the public and every year since. When seeing the management being irresponsible and in denial of issues being there own fault I'm going to pipe up too! Like it or not - other posters and the KLS management.
    2 points
  29. Yes and if you don’t suck up to them on social media and say what they want to hear your blocked straight away - what awful way to treat paying customers- basically your allowed an opinion as long as it’s the same as the clubs .
    2 points
  30. The year before when the Aces were top virtually all season, they had to cram in (I think), 6 matches in just over two weeks... Some of those crowds were the lowest gates of the year, with several of them massively down on the regular crowd that year.... Getting 2000 and 3200 for the two play offs didn't cover the loss of revenue of those meetings I would suggest, or at best it broke even... If no play offs had existed then I would say that all six meetings would have run in front of healthy crowds as 'The Title' was up for grabs and every meeting meant something towards the ultimate prize.. (With the night the Champions getting the Trophy being the biggest crowd of the Season by far!) There are clear Pros and Cons to the play offs, but poor fixture planning certainly does the Sport zero favours, as instead of the Season reaching a much anticipated crescendo, it decends into farce with riders missing left, right and centre as clubs share them in Guestfests, to fit in lots of meetings before cut off time... Sadly that nonsense doesn't help bring any great kudos to winning any League, Play offs or not.... And, for me, that has a far higher negative impact to crowds than the system used to produce the 'Champions'...
    2 points
  31. Seems that Jack Thomas was kept at home by the family due to the fact that his grandfather was about to pass away. So he didn't "just not turn up". Must have been a huge shock to Chris Hunt who was already without Hurry.
    2 points
  32. Maybe jenga will know lol............??????
    2 points
  33. If play offs are a 'gimmick' its one that both rugby codes now use as their method of deciding title winners and even access to English football's highest division is partly decided by it. Clearly, speedway isn't alone in believing that this is the method that is most beneficial to the sport as a whole.
    2 points
  34. August 18, absolutely ridiculous state of affairs.
    2 points
  35. Great to see tonight the Supporters Club make a donation to the club. Makes total sense that the two parties pull together. The Supporters Club have a lot of members who are daft for the club. Can only be good for the future.
    2 points
  36. Too right Danny, the club has a good feel about it, I truly believe the riders are giving 100% for the cause, what more can we ask, at the end of the day it’s about our team and us supporters, we chose to go watch the team or we don’t, we accept what’s going down or we don’t, we have two chances ..... I choose GO
    2 points
  37. Poole didn't agree it did they? Didn't they just go ahead and do it regardless? its no good anyway as the riders would have to ride for their inferior 2nd league teams because of the tail wagging the dog rules wise. Bit of over reacting negativity wise though. guest wise etc this season all round has been much better. Its a good time to be a lynn fan. Im enjoying speedway more than i have in many years. Come onto the forum and its full of bs. Don't go! Simple! Lots of people clearly are enjoying it because they keep turning up each week and I'm pretty sure your not missed if you don't! I really don't get the over self importance? Its a rubbish situation but lets make the most we can out of it. At least we know in advance so we can make our choices on attending with that in mind.
    2 points
  38. Totally agree if some people put as much effort in to supporting there team on track, as they do moaning on here the atmosphere maybe a lot better in the stadiums.
    2 points
  39. Enjoyed the meeting this evening and full credit to the Panthers for getting a point after being 10 points down. I think it was the wrong decision in heat 15 as Starkey clearly did not touch Robbo and that would have given us the draw. could be a useful point in the long run. Still a couple of riders not at the races tonight but we win and lose as a team.
    1 point
  40. If thats true then thats great Taylorj. It will be great to see the full team race together.
    1 point
  41. That could work. Better to have people who only want to see the first meeting paying a net £18 than staying at home because they don’t want to spend £27.
    1 point
  42. It's cool with no rain now or forecast. Should be OK with plenty of rain in the shale already from Friday .
    1 point
  43. TS ride can be used in Ht 5-14 inclusive excluding Heat 8
    1 point
  44. 1 point
  45. The 3rd Division in its many guises has survived since 1994, even in 1995 and 96 when it became the 2nd tier because the usual top 2 Leagues amalgamated and in 1998 when the League membership dropped to 5 tracks! The trouble in recent years has been the inclusion of ex top flight clubs that have had the extra clout to outcompete against the more grassroots clubs in the Division. But without the 3rd tier, these ex top flight clubs would have folded and indeed all of the others wouldn't be running. The ex top flight clubs, Birmingham, Eastbourne and Coventry need competitive teams in order to attract viable crowds. My local NL team Mildenhall are in the same boat as well cause you'd lose half the regular crowd at West Row with a poor team. Plymouth and IoW struggle to attract riders because of their locations and Buxton is run on a shoe string budget so lose potential riders to wealthier clubs. Kent are competitive and viable, Belle Vue are the only remaining "reserve team" from a higher League track left in the NL and seem to do OK. Stoke with its middle of the Country location, decent shaped track and Saturday race night should be in a good position to be highly competitive but the dreadfully poor way its run means that's not the case and that place has been in sharp decline ever since they left the 2nd tier which was before the above mentioned 3 ex top flight clubs dropped down. Another concern of mine is the lack of 2nd half's at many tracks which results in less opportunities for riders trying to make their way! Whilst we are in tricky times (when hasn't British speedway been in tricky times in the last 36 years?) I'm sure the bottom Division will continue to exist!
    1 point
  46. Some early links for Gniezno v Lublin https://s.ustreamix.com/stream.php?id=polsat-sport&token=4f80e7e994d8439c416b8d9ceec47a66 https://supersportowo.com/stream11.html http://tele-wizja.ru/ps/ https://ekranik.tv/channel/view/polsat-sport-5529 http://livemecz.com/transmisja6.php http://tele-wizja.ru/player/zapaspolsatsport.html
    1 point
  47. A pathetic post from a bloke who just about has the guts to put his leg over a pushbike.Unsensetive i have total respect for every rider of every level who puts his life on the line to try to entertain us i am sad that you find taking the piss out of Jack pleasurable.
    1 point
  48. A far better meeting despite the score. Of course the result was predictable given the Devils injury list. The pre meeting parade was lead by ex servicemen. Before it got under way, Danny Ayres stood and chatted with them and shook their hands. You could see their pride as he did so. Before the meeting, it was good to meet up and chat with long standing friends Halifaxtiger and Phil Kirk. Easy to see why the Tigers are on course for a NL whitewash of Trophies. Some excellent speedway throughout, but the two major talking points were Hts 13 and 15. Heat 13 was absolutely top drawer. Whatever level you enjoy our sport, this race was right up there with the very best. Pearson and Tatum would have exploded with compliments. Three riders side by side for two and a half laps, with all combinations of results happening on every turn. 3-3 to 2-4 to 1-5 to 2-4 to 3-3 and back again. It is probably the best ever race at the SBA. Extraordinary stuff. Ayres angry that he came 2nd! Full credit to PhilK who waited at the pit gate to congratulate Morley on his win, with a BIG smile on his face too! It was that good. Ht15 was a strange one. Going into bend tree, Atkins was leading, as Morley dive bombed him, forcing a small error.This in turn took him out into the path of Ayres who was blasting round the outside. Ayres fell. Now for me, stood just in front of the tapes, it was one of two exclusions. Either Ayres for hitting the fence and falling or Morley for causing Atkins into an unnecessary error causing Ayres to fall. Bizarrely, the referee excluded the only totally blameless rider, Atkins! Even Kevin Jolly was surprised as he shouted to Ayres 'you are back in'! The following copied from the Plymouth Forum, where I tink the referee contradicts himself! Interesting stat.....heats 1-8 we were 16 points down. Heats 9-15 only 2 points down.Heat 13 special. How about heat 15 where Morley tore into bend 3 like a bowling ball.I asked the referee about his decision. "From my point of view Ben nudged Henry who then nudged Danny causing him to fall. I had to exclude a rider which was a very difficult decision hence the reason for the wait. I felt Henry was the main cause of the stoppage although unluckily"Fair enough ref. Thank you for the explanation Read more: http://plymouthdevils.proboards.com/thread/9690/devils-mildenhall-fri-aug-2018?page=5#ixzz5OVhlxEpw
    1 point
  49. Does that prove the point. I bet you were entertained, had admiration for the riders and probably left happy having been entertained even if things were a bit hairy. All that excitement and I bet each and every one at least tried unlike their peers who are clearly overpaid to the point where that they can afford not to race every week or perhaps doubling up has taken away the incentive to serve the paying public and show some allegiance to club and fans.
    1 point
  50. I don’t take offence from you so please feel free to quote me at anytime as I really couldn’t give a s@&t !! No one on here with more “Scunthorpe tinted glasses” than yourself , I prayed for rain on Sunday and yes it bloody poured it down You really can’t get over that amazing gesture from your lot to re-arrange one fixture , by the hell you’ve made up for it since ! But hey you carry on trying to convince everyone it’s no fault of the BSPA the sorry state British Speedway is in , how Scunny did us a massive favour ...as us we’ve got something called playoffs to qualify for which might just be out of your reach at the minute
    1 point
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