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No broken bones for Tero which is great news

At this stage the team name is not important.....The survival of speedway in Essex is......

Not according to the Stars info in their bumper pre season preview which states Friday In this instance for BSPA read the idiot Godfrey. He’s only now trotting this out to make himself look and feel better.

Watch and learn!! How many points are Swindon behind Poole?!

This wasn't a bad decision. Unbelievable would be a more accurate description.

Make it ,Ham & Rye.Tastily sandwiching both in!!

There's no doubt in mind the call off is genuine and having seen the picture of the track its the right decision. At the end of the day calling this match off would be the last thing the Plymouth promotion would have wanted. The cut off is about 3 weeks away and with them just outside the playoffs a call off is the last thing they need. Also like any club they lose money for having to call meetings off, this meeting would have had a good crowd for sure esp with it being the last friday in August. Just one of them things.

Always prefer a long stroke myself!!

Never seen George’s comments of a few seasons ago so can’t comment on that but you have just said in your own words the Barker/Aarnio incident was “similar” to Richie’s so you must agree it was Barkers fault as you must also know some Redcar fans were that enraged about it they were saying they wished “Richie had been killed”

Is anybody bothered ? Scunthorpe have still won, so it doesn't matter how anybody got to Bordeaux etc. Speedway rules in general are a complete farce. Every promotor is in it for there own club. Until an independent regime take it over then you will always get twists and turns with each rule. This season has been a joke from day one with only one set of fixtures instead of two which has always worked at our level.We are now going into September with some teams nowhere near completing their fixtures ,the early season shield semi finals have not been rode and now we've got supporters worrying about r/r in a meaningless fixture ???? well done to Scunthorpe on the 3 points ,at least we will have another trophy to polish this winter even though it may only be at wooden spoon.. Let's hope the bspa can put things right and give us a full fixture list next season.As a footnote it will be interesting to see how much promotors have SAVED this season after their wise decision.

And add some rocket to make it even tastier

It wouldn't suprise me to see two bigger leagues next year and the NL dumped. It's not really a training league anymore, and some of the teams would be better off running SDL level of racing. The likes of Mildenhall and Kent should be staging a higher level of speedway with their crowd levels.

What about Arena Essex

Not a bad idea, although the London Lions flopped at Hackney in 1996. Also, I wonder if Rye House is too far from London for it to work. Obviously, it's Lakeside Hammers for this season, but beyond that using the 'Lakeside' name seems largely pointless, especially since it's not even the traditional name for Arena Essex. It's just a shopping centre that flagged to people where the Arena Essex Raceway was actually based. Maybe Rye House Hammers does make most sense. It's a link to London it itself, since it's the old West Ham name. Plus it trips nicely off the tongue.

Hammers? don't think so! They had better drop the claret and blue body colours too, Hoddesdon is Tottenham country, they wont go for anything that reminds them of WHU. Lesson one, know your fan base, it wont be the same as you have had before.

No question in my view - nor, indeed, in anyone around me. The white exclusion light was greeted with disbelief by Redcar and Newcastle fans alike. The way I saw it, Barker went hard under Aarnio, lost control for a moment causing him to straighten and as a result T boned him. Boz hits it bang on for me in his description of Barker's move, although I do not accept that hitting Aarnio was deliberate. This is what Redcar have to say : 'The Bears man made a move up the inside and appeared to make contact with Aarnio'. Newcastle's George English was a little less subtle : "It looked like we were in control early on until that moment when Tero was brought down and the referee disqualified him! Unbelievable decision,' Ps Nice to see my fame has spread I probably won't be back until next season, but say Hi if/when I am.

Me too but at my age a short stroke is often enough!!

Funny we were stood right behind you on Thursday and when the incident happened my wife said that will be Ben out of the rerun, I said not necessarily Ben had the inside line and was slightly in front of Aarnio who appeared to me to turn into Ben and came off worse. This was later confirmed by the referee, so you see there are always two points of view. Wish Aarnio a swift recovery

12 (TWELVE) league matches from March to September and they have to hold a second double header against the same team. must have been busy with KO Cup matches as they have reached the semi finals having got through ONE round already.

Wow your 56 according to your profile, and your still calling ppl a wally, me thinks it's time you grew up!!!!

Heaven only knows. Absolutely no question that Barker lost control and T boned Aarnio into the fence. Given how obvious it was, probably one of the worst decisions I have ever seen.

I think real speedway supporters see tonight for what it was. A match going one way, then a situation that changed the entire tide of the meeting. Normally in any sport these things are called turning points, sadly for the sport of speedway tonight, with the exception of a very few Redcar fans who appeared to cheer the event, that turning point was a blatant attempt to knock off a rider well in control of the race. As a team who have defied all sceptics this season and really stood tall it’s a shame to end the night without a point, but the thing that makes speedway great is it’s love for proper racing, true racing, and the diamonds stood tall tonight. The only thing left to say about Redcar speedway is, congratulations....... you had 6 riders riding tonight who rode fair, but sadly it took a B.B. intervention to kickstart the team, but kickstart they did. The fact they were rejuvenated isn’t the problem, it’s the 1 rider who continues to jeopardise riders safety daily that’s the issue. Well done Ben barker!

I thought Kurtz might step up this year. I think he had around the 3rd or 4th highest average at the start of the season, without checking 8.04 rings a bell, i was wrong. But at 21 and on a low 6.80 ish average he would be a bargain next season. Starting as the 3rd highest average in a team would be ideal, no pressure as he don't seem to handle it yet. I'd have him at Lynn next season on a 6.80.. Before I get bombarded with the Pirate brigade, I know he will be at Wimborne Rd in 2019.

have to agree.a super night of speedway racing on a v.well prepared track.charles and kyle not at their usual standard but all credit to kyle after that nasty looking crash.todd gave it his all in that final race and only just lost out.full credit to all the lads tonight especially todd,kasper and connor.well done scunthorpe on the comeback.thoroughly enjoyed the meeting after the recent home meetings.credit to our captain also for thanking the sheffield supporters for their support tonight.top man.

The statement from Lakeside seems a positive one which I hope is good news for both supporters of Lakeside and Rye House going forward

Would fancy Monarchs. To win Play offs over 2 legs with the Team that have now.

How is Harris getting there? How is Shanes getting there? If Shanes is driving there is no way he could risk setting off the meeting, he will already be on his way It's a disgrace that he cant afford to fly out tonight or tomorrow morning

Maybe he should... But only a fool would agree to dates that would mean riding without your full team of riders. but please don't let reality get in the way of responsibility... When Matt Ford instigated having Wednesdays as one of the fixed race night, he knew the 2nd divisions teams would consolidate his suggestion that allowed Poole to retain their normal race night. What a pity he didn't think more about the sport, rather than his own personal situation. As soon as the FRN were assigned to Mondays and Wednesdays, it was a decision that meant the days when the Danes rode in our league were numbered. Signing 3 Danish riders, Kings Lynn were always going to suffer the consequences of these clashing dates. coupled to that the 6 cancelled meetings, that we have suffered, plus the Rye House withdrawal, you understand the inevitable problems with the fixtures...

That has to be the favourite.

Unfortunately on this season's form you couldn't really count Iversen as part of a top pairing as his average shows.To be honest he has been very poor,probably 4 double figure scores this season unsure without looking.He should be scoring double figures every other meeting.If he was to get back to the form we know he is capable of i would feel much more confident in Lynn being able to lift the play off trophy.

Definately the opposite in my opinion.-Wroclaw has developed into a brilliant race track this season.

Hoddesdon Hammers maybe?

Even more countries could put out one competitive rider, but at what point does it cease to become a team competition? Two riders is not a proper team competition in my book, however well it might have worked, and you also have the issue where 5 countries are sitting out each heat. The SWC was generally the best international competition over the years, and usually produced good racing. Absolutely ridiculous to be changing the format because one country happens to have a run of success. The Poles are far less dominant than Denmark were in the 80s, England/Britain were in the 70s, and Sweden were in the 60s, and they didn't radically change the World Team Cup format then. Did FIFA turn the World Cup into a 5-a-side competition after Brazil won it a few times?

This is how I see it Keith. Averages are worked out by dividing the number of points scored, by the rides ridden, then you x 4 So heres Brady Kurtz for an example...…. His rolling ave is 6.80 at the mo. He has had 93 rides, scored 158 points. you divide 158 by 93, then times that by 4 gives 6.7956, rounded up gives 6.80. Lets say in his next meeting he scores 4 points from 4 rides..... so 97 rides and 162 points..... So 162 points divided by 97 rides = 1.6701, x 4 gives you 6.6804.....His new average after the poor meeting would be 6.68. That's how I understand it Keith

that's probably the most sensible thing to have happened in speedway for about 25 yrs, I feel for the rye fans but they've local riders in the lakeside team and I think they will get belting crowds at hoddesdon of a Saturday night

On the face of it there's not much difference but then look back at last year's relegation play off and there's your answer

This meeting is being re-staged at Rye House on Saturday 15th September. Full statement on Hammers' website today.

If you want discuss Somerset you need to go to the Premiership section. This thread is about teams not named after towns or cities. Anyway, apart from Kent and Somerset I don't think there's many more. Edit:- Bristol today is actually classified as a county, so Bristol Bulldogs would qualify.

Honestly Got a text off the little fella at 02.21 this morning, After x-rays and an MRI scan he was released from hospital, no fractures or breaks only soft tissue damage to the shoulder and upper arm muscle, he is feeling decidedly second hand and reckons he should only miss tonight's match against Glasgow with a bit of luck. After seeing the speed he was propelled into that air bag I would say he is a lucky (lucky) lad to come away with the injuries he has as it could have been much more serious than it was Regards THJ

It has been a problem for a number of season of referees making bad decisions, as most matches are filmed for video production why not give a feed to the referees box then he can review any stoppage and hopefully give the correct decision.

Looks like my Gino question has been answered. Such a shame I thought he was going to have developed into a much better rider.

Not a half bad meeting. I say this as a Ben Barker fan, but how on earth he was not excluded in heat 6 is beyond belief. It was a move that at best was very ambitious, and at worst reckless. Best wishes to Tero, and Mikkel B who had a tough fall as well. Some great racing afterwards from Ben, Jorgensen and Lunna in particular. Robson was excellent value for Newcastle.

Campton's reading the script for next season?

Was thinking of putting some in S Shovlars van

A massive thanks must go to the promotion, I bet this week has been an absolute nightmare agreeing fixtures before the cut-off !! Praying for fine weather and plenty of support to cheer these boys onto the play-offs, we still hanging on in there.. Come on boys we can do this !!!

But someone did so it was changed and now genuine cases are being punished

You'd like to think they couldn't wouldn't you .

I actually enjoyed it. Was decent for Leicester

Todd is a slow burner? really? His average in the 2nd division was 4.97 in 2011, now 7 years later is less than a point higher, on that basis it will take another 15 years plus to become an 8 point rider. I like Todd, but do you really think someone who has been around in this division for 7 years and always been a 5-6 point rider will suddenly be an 8 point rider and by definition a potential number 1. I have my doubts

I wouldn't have a GP anywhere near Wroclaw. Its one of the worst racing tracks in the Ekstraliga (along with Tarnow) and after the poor attendance at the SON I dont' think they can make a case. Czestowchow on the other hand would be awesome. What annoys me is that every time a Speedway GP is run at places such as Prague, Terrazano, Krsko, Teterow etc you get the first 8 or so heats of rubbish racing. In that time part time viewers have turned off and the speedway myth of whoever get to the first end first wins in perpetuated and any chance of Speedway increasing sits fan base has been lost Putt the series on the best racing tracks available. NSS would be awesome as would Pardubice.