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Steve if you think woffinden would put a few more hundred people on the gate at wolves, you are dreaming..

I think we should step back from some of the detail here and look at the bigger picture. We have a club with a long history returning to the top flight, on it's traditional race night, being lead by a former world champion. This is to be celebrated by all speedway fans. And we can only hope that many former Sheffield fans will see these developments as a good enough reason to come back into the fold. Well done Sheffield. I look forward to seeing you on track.

Grading is rubbish. Averages are much more accurate.

Not really, I would rather the club was more financially secure.

So you thought you would start another Poole thread in here!!

Don’t get the dislike for Mr Phillips. His sponsorship has probably kept the Diamonds afloat for 2 years.

To be fair a think there's a fair few that preferred it if you stuck to your own thread also?! First and final time I comment on a lower league sides thread ......

I see Rob ride at Swindon earlier in the season and boy he looked quick he had one dodgy fall in one race but his gating was electric.The one thing that struck me about him in the pits was his enthusiasm and he also was a really nice bloke to speak to.He will be great for team moral and great to have around the younger members of the team really hope he has a great 2020 season.

I think that is up for debate !

Glad to see things looking good for the Diamonds, i have a lot of time for the majority of the fans down that way. Have met a few over the years and are a good bunch, good to get this news and happy for the fans knowing things look ok .

You ask Cvs when woffy come back the other year he didn't put that much more on the gate than you think and that is fact....

You will only be bad and hate yourself in the morning. Lol

Yeah give him a spanner man who knows what to do & he could turn out as good as fast freddie

Im only discussing skidders statement.................'dont cry for me Argentina' This could be Covatti or Garcia...........and inmy opinion Garcia would be a poor signing But if you dont have the same view as others then you arent allowed to comment

Why does it really matter? It's a thread on a speedway forum not the formulae for world peace

Can I ask are you a fan of Newcastle who went to every meeting? If yes then I can't understand you saying you want Martin Phillips completely gone. Without Martin you would not have been able to have to watch your speedway that's a fact, so think about what you write before open your mouth.......

Aye ok, we'll forget that one

Surely to do with the fact that the competition is weaker.

Official Club Statement here: http://www.newcastlediamonds.co/news/article.asp?id=101059

He would be box office and loved within a fortnight. Fans are fickle.

I recall some years ago that it was stated in the Speedway Star that NP was the only rider that would draw in extra fans on the gate, having a much greater effect than Woffinden who, it was said, would make little difference. Well done Sheffield!

I think moving forward hopefully the higher league clubs will all start to have some development side as a feeder. even if neighbour clubs entered a joint side sharing home fixtures. It may cost promoters a little in the short term but looking long term it has to be cheaper to have a pool of local lads ready for the big leagues rather then importing riders. Equally a strongly supported NL gives potential new stand alone clubs a viable league to set out in, which in turn can only strengthen speedway across the board. For the pinicle of the the sport to be stable the foundations need to be solid. I actually think if the BSPA were to get the NL back of a couple of years ago, when it was by far the best the league in the country. Get everything around the National League set up right and then adapt the sport moving up the levels accordingly

Thanks for getting this thread up. Still not pinned?

I hope Rob clamps down on all the people who get in for free .

Any tactic to stay on top...

Just Skidder playing games with Gavan!

Make more sense if Berwick signed Covatti and Coty.They could be buddies there too

I certainly hope we get Ben, big fan favourite for Kent, and will chip in with valuable points at home. I think it’s an ok move bringing Rob in at reserve, it shows that the hunger at his ripe age is there and it is one of those “prove us wrong” type of signings, as the majority of people will expect him to fail, but hopefully with the right set up and fitness he can prove them wrong, and in particular the age haters haha. Good luck to the old boy!

Of course they would. He is proper box office material and most want the best British rider back racing in the UK. Plus it’s not rocket science, the more top riders in the top flight the bigger the crowds. Nicki will add to most turnstiles next year, that’s a great thing. Ditto Zmarzlik, Emil. Woffy would certainly add more thru the turnstiles, probably more than a rider past his best.

Report your own post to the mods and put a comment saying can the topic be pinned. That’s how I got the NL one pinned.

Are yee on the drink aalready?

Doesnt matter if they are on this section to me Must hurt though seeing riders like Doyle , Batch and Pedersen getting fixed up while your team is in the lower tier

I think the previous comment comes from the fact that Danny Phillips was given such a long run in the team when he is nowhere near good enough and is never going to improve yet it’s obviously Martin Phillips that kept him in the team it shows a lack of ambition if you ask me!

It has been discussed over and over again on this forum and I never say never but not for me.

Averages that grade a riders ability is one brilliant tool speedway has & other sports can only dream of. The way they are sometimes implemented & abused is the problem!

i certainly don't like some of the names being mentioned .but i never wanted to drop down anyway still that's water under the bridge

howay ruffers man

It used to be In Rosco we Trust(others pay cash), but Lee has made such a difference to Swindon speedway. Engages with the fans, more positive vibe around the place since he came in. Rosco and him work so well together. Swindon are the team to beat in 2020, as they bid for 3 titles in 4 years. Lee and Aluns Tangerine Army

Can Newcastle now be re instated subject to new consortium being approved.Thank You.

Maybe that is what he is hoping!

He would have to bang in 12 or 13 every week to convince the hardcore who don’t forget. I doubt we will ever see him in a Wolves race jacket again, and I for one couldn’t be happier. If he did it’s a season I’d happily miss.

There's been a history of the Lions binning young reserves in the second tier, but this year Jack Thomas binned himself, that was all. But overall there's been a stong tendency for younger riders to underperform at Beaumont Park for the Lions, I think that's because they've struggled to master the track and then get discouraged. Joe and Dan will not have that problem, and so they start out with an advantage over many who have trodden this path.

Attendances down more like. Quite a lot of regular Wolves fans can’t stick him. And the feeling is mutual apparently. id never support a team with him in it, pure and simple.

Robert has many links with Brough having rode for us , worked in the dog staff and his late mother worked at the track for a long time. It's a bit like coming home for him and probably his father and I wish them the very best of luck to open up the Diamonds in 2020. We know who will be selling the pies now,

Yes we are on a very strict budget now and rightly so. Dont want cripple the club for the sake of 1 rider so mark has a very difficult job. And I think this year we could be last years Peterborough

As team manager of the cubs and second half organiser I tried every week to get Elliot to second half / race for the cubs. Sadly for one reason and another it just didn't happen often enough which was a huge shame as the kid himself was always very keen to race at the MPA. I personally think its a little early to be thinking about championship for him and hopefully a second solid season in the NDL will bring him up to a consistent standard to maybe take the step in 2021 or 22 Ell is a great kid, always prepared to listen and learn and with the right advice and guiidance Im sure he can make it in the sport.

I always like to read your comments, Teaboy as you seem to know what you are talking about and never seem to spout some of the rubbish I read on this forum from self important know-alls who actually know nothing. So far as Ledwith is concerned, I don't care if he's 60, I enjoy watching him ride over the edge in 110% effort in every race. I think he deserves a chance to shine.

Is there any team that named their first two riders with a combined age of nearly.....NINETY???

I never rated the chip bar at Rye, i always thought it was overrated. Mildenhall have always been the kings of that department.

The good thing about doing it on paper is,,, if you don't get it right you can always make aeroplanes