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Outrageous, how dare the FIM make all the sensible picks just as we predicted leaving us nothing to whinge about. Shocked! PS Kubera, J Holder, Bewley, Chugunov and Miskowiak for my preferred reserve list.

For me, that makes sense if the latter stages of the GP qualification system took place after the GP series had finished. How about this. The primary qualification could take place alongside the GP series with no current GP riders involved. This could result in the top 9 going through to be joined by the bottom 7 from the current series after the last GP. These 16 would then compete in the GP Challenge (what a meeting!). The top 6 from this go through to be joined by 1 wildcard. You can argue about the numbers but the philosophy of how riders would qualify, for me, would be very fair. The also rans from this year get a last chance and a significant number of new riders get an opportunity as well. And as a real bonus you don't get any current GP riders, qualifying for next year half way through this year's series (with the possible exception of the SEC champion).

Tonight is the night people if you want to help or make a change Looking forward to seeing as many people as posible Regards John

Maybe he should just qualify if he's that good .. just a thought

Yes because it`s free

It’s because the TV were there, if it wasn’t live on TV then it would have likely been called off after the 5pm cloudburst. Of course then we would have likely had complaints from someone we had called it off to early !!!!

will ask to see if we can get somewhere in between just to help you both out lol

There are not many “Top” riders that could jump ship,or they would be there already.

Unless one is in with a chance of the top 3 finish, why bust a gut striving for 6th. place, when the 6 below you get picked anyway. I agree Kubera should have got a place... does it really matter how many Poles or how few British?. Was anyone else even considered or were the wildcards decided long ago?.

Eurosport really fkd up last night tbh no plan b to televise the other meeting in case of a rain off and there was a camera at Sheff!

Both Lahti & Becker rode in the qualification rounds so had 9 & 8 rides to their credit prior to the 6 lap final. Jack holder was also involved in the opening rounds but was unbeaten until the semi finals. Dudek & Doyle were by far the best on the day & rightly took the top two steps. Doyle wanted to be the first to take four victories on the trot but it was not to be. This is a fantastic event for which the Pardubice club deserve huge credit for their organisation in bringing all these competitors together for a full weekend of speedway & flat track in all the events a total of 99 race jackets had to be filled for 4 events over 3 days.

We had 3 times as many teams in the league back in 1965 and it was well run. Plenty of time for non- league meetings too.

Don’t bemoan an attractive meeting - live speedway at your track. On behalf of speedway fans from Coventry, Eastbourne, Birmingham, Newcastle, Arena Essex, etc etc

What he does with the profit from Poole Speedway is his own business

what about Vaculik - he got his 4th nomination within 5 years (same as Harris, Nicholls, Lindgren in the past) - he was injured this year, but probably wouldn't have reached the top 6 anyway but if you cannot get a place in the top 6 (or 8) more than once within 5 years are you stll rated as a world championship challenger??

pair of arrogant people and that's being kind !!

It's a shame the Development Leagues were destroyed for the Premier Junior League, which never happened

Because the whole TV costs for getting there/setting up run into thousands !! and they had to give it every chance however slim

That's true and we can play the examples game all day. The nutjob's point was that "but if it is raining in one part of Peterborough, it is likely to be raining in another part of Peterborough" and although it's not necessarily so as you put it, over the years as a local it is on balance he's more often right than not. Saturday for example I sat at Posh. It absolutely tipped it down in town centre for hours. I doubt that the EoES missed any of that which would have left the track pretty well sodden and not requiring anything more than a light shower on Monday. I sat at home working yesterday at 5pm and it was tipping down. Someone later posted "Unfortunately the downpour at 5.00 was the killer blow" which was at the EoES miles away on the other side of Peterborough. So from a generic point of view you were right but in terms of Peterborough rain and the speedway I had to side with KSF on this occasion.

6 man teams...the 5 SoN squad members from each Nation, so 1 rider needed on each side. What are the chances that it'll be Glasgow riders added? Cook for GB and Nowak for Poland?

Common sense would say his season is over and he should be working his way back to full fitness over the winter months. I for one would have him back in the team for 2022.

It seems that you want riders in "on merit", so I assume you want as close to the Top 15 as is possible? So, how many riders NOT in the GP's would have made five semi-finals this year? Which is what Lambert did...

Remember you were told last season that there would be 2 Rising Stars in teams this year going forward so you will get 4 Stars which will allow for maximum combinations of a 3 + 1 Star or a 2 + 2 Star at reserve if you max out your Star ration.. After all it would be daft to stick in two 1 Star Reserves you may as well use up your star ration to the full... That will leave a figure to be chosen for the team building of the top 5 which due to the shortage of riders last season might be to a maximum of 35 but could be as low as 32 or even 30 for the Championship... The NDL will change possibly to clubs 2nd teams only so I am not sure where that will leave Mildenhall and the IOW (If they come back) and anyone else who thinks they could drop down into this league and thinking of Brum and Eastie here who have done this in the past or Oxford and Bradford if they were to come back and that is purely down to rider availability...Just personal thought that one though... Top league will be ok with the Super 6 but I would like to see a couple more added to this for a league of 8 or even 10 but cant see it happening somehow and let them build to 45 points so they can be as strong as possible... So 5 Stars for their reserves and 40 points for the 1 to 5... Finally I have been reading about this new Glasgow proposal that will be put forward by Michael Max amongst others which knowing Michael will be well thought out and lets face it could it be any worse than what we have at the minute with this rising star thing; looking forward to hearing more about this proposal and seeing how far it gets... lets hope its a winner. Regards THJ

Potentially there could be 4 newcomers each year, 3 from GP Challenge and 1 as Euro Champ, that is more then 25% of the field. I am happy with the current system which takes top 6 auto for next year and selectors pick 5, which potentially could be 5 newcomers through to 5 from the current year who are still of the right quality, and anything in between those extremes. Very flexible, I am ok with it.

Poor odds that mind,,, anyway, owt happening yet?

ruffers il give you 10/1 on the quote

I went to the last ever meeting at West Ham. The last race was won by Kevin Holden. I used to have a multi signed programme with autographs i got on the night. I was only a youngster, but it was an emotional experience for me. It remains my all time favourite track to this day.

He did say he lost a lot of weight during lockdown,maybe through the lack of pies.

Sounds reasonable,when they decide how many go through automatically the rest should have to have be involved in a meeting to decide if they can stay in ,Wildcards should be riders who were not in the last series IMO.

Ten points was exactly the same margin that Peterborough managed to beat us by at Owlerton a few weeks back.... but four days later we beat them by 12 on their own turf. It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

I am ok with those 15, looks more reasonable then last couple of years. What we need to remember is that some riders have to finish 15, 14, 13 12 etc, whoever you chose as your top 15.

Wet, but track work has begun - will almost certainly be a delayed start.

No it won't. Wolves have publicly stated (in last weeks Star) that they won't run in a six team league next year. So the top league will need 1, probably 2, teams joining the current six. That either means somebody moving up from the Championship (unlikely in my opinion) or Swindon and/or Oxford joining. It is by no means certain that Swindon will return next year. They took this year out to allow the stadium to be rebuilt, when in effect they could have ran as this work has only barely started. Oxford? Maybe, if they open up which league will they want to be in. If none of the above happens, will it be one league? I can't see the top division running with 5 teams. If so, at what level, and could we lose some more teams. As an aside if it goes to one league, of say 16 teams, where will they get 32 rising stars from, and how many "top" riders will jump ship to Europe?

Year in year out NP/KT as well as those in the studio bang on endlessly towards the end of the season about the importance in finishing in the top 6, or 8 as was.. Utter bullsh!t when every year the top 10 are pretty much nailed on. No jeopardy. No reason to do the qualifiers.

Don’t think enough has been said about that heat 13 incident. Holder was well out of order and from my angle it was deliberately done. He knew it straight away and went over to apologise to Dan. Naughty move

Like they were always scheduled too

What about 250 class which is currently the strongest class even if it's not the biggest

Why can't they have covers that say hook to the outside of the fence and then attached to the inside of the track.Surely this would allow the air to flow and the track not to sweat.

Matt Ford is building his chateau on the television currently if you want something to do.

This will teach the administrators of the sport and the clubs to sacrifice meetings in the summer months rather than get on and complete this summer sport in August or early September. Unfortunately meetings are driven and dictated by DU riders and those riders who think only themselves in order to screw out the maximum income out of the clubs they ride for without consideration for the fans. Sooner or later these riders with inflated egos and think that the sport owes them a living will be unemployed and then they will wake up to their failings. No wonder this sport is a joke, mismanaged by inept promoters and tail wagging dog riders. They deserve each other.

If only they’d invested that Sky tv money in track covers instead of it going in there back pockets -if only .Then there was the track blower wind machine that was going to each televised meeting wonder what happened to that

Oh no how will the world cope!!!!!!!!

When they persist in having all the major finals in October, they really do get what they deserve

2nd leg wont be live on Eurosport either. What a rubbish TV deal the Sport has in this country.

Actually, Smolinski didn't qualify. He finished 10th in the GP Challenge, but was picked as first reserve which would have given him a place when Greg retired...

Why does Kinsley always get mentioned it's clear even before his stuff got nicked his performances for Redcar he's not good enough for middle tier racing he's a NDL rider at best

I would pay Craigan just too shut up for 10 mins , his jaw muscles must be solid.

Who are Glasgow meeting in the playoffs? They are still waiting to find out who their opponents will be! Similarly they have been waiting since the summer to find out their semi final ko Cup opponents thanks to Birmingham cancelling their fixture with Edinburgh at short notice. Finally the GB meeting is being held on a night that is not their normal or alternative race night. Get a life!

It is questionable whether the meeting should been run when the heat times were 9-12 seconds slower than the other NDL fixture,it’s obvious there was no racing, just getting round,fans paid good money.

Hasn't Max Fricke improved steadily over the last couple of years, I've been quite impressed with him this year, just goes about his business without any hype or fuss (except all those mentions about the GP challenge) quietly gaining the points, got a nice tidy style. Currently the top Aussie in the standings ahead of Doyley and has probably justified being selected ahead of Jack Holder by Lemo a couple of years back.