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Think you're right,although I just hope the limit stays at 40. Seems a good limit to build to, gives scope for a decent heat leader, retain some of the improavers from last year and bring in some newbies/youngsters . Still think we'll go with Perks, Knight, Wood, Brennen, another 3 point reserve, then decide the last 2 places at 2and4 once the points limit is known.

Points limit for team building and where riders what to ride will have a far greater bearing than supposed assets I think.

Maybe need to be the best in the NL first! I'm happy where they are at the moment and look forward to the progression of Georgie Wood , Tom Brennan etc. With it looking likely Lakeside going NL next year, some cracking matches look likely with local teams Lakeside and Kent, and the renewed rivalry against Birmingham and Cradley.

Does anyone know if there's a final set of green sheet averages to come out, or because of the unfinished fixtures the 27/9 ones will be the last ones issued?

That's what it is now only with less teams!

Spot on post, exactly how we felt.

Sure it'll be NL again, unfinished business.

Exactly it was up to the Brum management to confirm that Shanes was eligible as said before, they failed to do that.

Posting what he did was a no lose situation for him! He was either going to be right or happy. ....

Unlikely anyone would own up to speaking to the ref, but did anyone see the ref talking to the fans? I was there quite early and didn't see it if it happened.

Never ever seen a ref talk to supporters before a match! How on earth can a decision be made like that if true 30 minintes before a match. ...

If it hadn't been for the riding of JPB last night the meeting would have been a greater disaster, and apart from a few of my fellow Eastie fans we would all rather have had the meeting with James Shanes riding whatever the result although still think we'd have won by more than 6. The subject has been discussed on here since Thursday regarding his eligibility,how on earth it wasn't clarified between Birmingham and the authorities whether the rule was in place or being ignored for this meeting beforehand is unbelievable. Imagine one phone call could have done the trick, giving time to arrange another guest or given the go ahead to use him.

This topic will be really interesting to do again after the final green sheets and points limit are known. Great looking team but probably 2/3 points too high as I imagine the points will be 40 again,unfairly this year we haven't completed all our league matches and will be unable to lower our averages with a 60/30 loss at KL !!!

I expect we'll win the league next year and lose the playoff then they'll drop it! Make a 'nice' bookend from 2002 ...

Only reason is gate receipts again. Big gates for the semis and the final but is never right, but it'll be back next year for sure.

Best team won on the night and well done, just a shame Eastbourne didn't turn up with a team, disregarding Stoneman were never going to win it with the 2 reserves and r/r . Only wonder was the lack of faith from some Brummie fans, always knew if Brum started as I suggested they would that it would quickly swing back in your favour.

No I'm not really expecting it and obviously hope the 5/1's against us don't happen, but I wasn't expecting Adam to fall off whilst leading by half a lap in heat one on Sunday giving you a 3 point start! Been going long enough to expect the unexpected, Tom Brennen could gate in heat 2 and beat your super reserves, unlikely but not impossible.

First half dozen heats will be the key for both teams. If Eastbourne can keep it within 4 or so by heat 6 think the strong top end will count later on, if Birmingham bang in a few 5/1's early on, pressure may tell on the Eagles. Whatever, still finely balanced and certainly could go either way. Just want no mechanical gremlins on either side, and no injuries.

And Cockle.

Stoneman scored 10+1 from reserve recently when the IOW played there. As Birmingham have a team that's strong 1to7 that was a pretty good score from any position. Think he'll get more than Coles did so baring mishaps all should be okay for the Eagles.

I watch on the home straight and it's not me! Do think it has a knock on effect though, one or too start which gets the rest going. All ok if there's no nastiness attached.

I think like you he's a terrific rider, do you or anyone know why he gets booed when he rides at Eastie? Did something happen in the past, or is it the Nicki Pedersen pantomime effect, boo him until he rides for you!

That would be a cracking team, would love that combination, but I would think the chances of getting Bickley and Jenkins is probably nil unfortunately. Could look like this? 1.Ellis Perks 8.68 2.Richard Andrews 4.36 3.Georgie Wood 7.53 4.Kelsey Dugard 4.28 5.Jake Knight 8.54 6.Newby to speedway 3.00 7.Tom Brennen 3.00 Total 39.39 If the final averages put Luke Harris or Charley Powell under 3.61 insert in No 6.

We were doing the same but it did appear that Powell went into Smith because Smith slowed having seen Adam Ellis whilst Powell hadn't. As you say it looked bad and dangerous refereeing, surely Ellis was the cause of the stoppage and should have been a 2/3 heat result given?

If you lose either which no way is a forgone conclusion, you will have lost it at home really. With your fantastic reserves should have had a 10 point plus lead, and even with our home track advantage, very hard to come back from 10+ behind. If you restrict us to single figures tonight still have an even chance of winning the playoffs .