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To be honest the poles are just making the most of the fact they have a product that the general public & big business alike want to be part of & they have the TV baking to make it work. Let's be honest British had the same opportunity in the 70s & 80s & again in the early 2000s with the sky input but did absolutely nothing with those opportunities. Don't blame the poles hats off to them for knowing how to run speedway in a professional manner
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RIP British Speedway
cowboy cookie returns? replied to BartoszZmarzlikFan's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Are you a promoter? All that's needed in that statement is "if you don't like it p**soff" Forgetting that the fans also put their hard earned money into the sport week in week out yet are constantly taken for a ride not given value for money & are expected just to turn up and have their feelings ignored or are just told to like it or lump it. Thousands have just walked away because of that very mindset. Bottom line is if the sport was ran professionally giving value for money entertainment the sport wouldn't be in the mess it is. As for fans tearing it apart the vast majority just want to see some form of acknowledgement that what's on offer is no long fit for purpose and that real change is coming. That change maybe too late to save the sport in the UK but at least bloody try!! I used to love my speedway never missed a home meeting. These days for many many reasons all connected with what's on offer for my spend and therefore in the control of the BSPA I attended once a year at best. -
RIP British Speedway
cowboy cookie returns? replied to BartoszZmarzlikFan's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Great idea i'd also just stick with the British & National League names. -
RIP British Speedway
cowboy cookie returns? replied to BartoszZmarzlikFan's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Slightly ironic that Buster is now fed up & wants to sell up, when much that is wrong was implemented during his time as chairman.- 132 replies
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Eastbourne 2020
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Hackett's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
The early 90s at Coventry on a Sunday afternoon the place was packed and the atmosphere electric! Happy days!!! -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
But speedway is dying in this country, sadly too many people like yourself can't see it. -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Wow! We have just added Sunday school into the mix on how to bring speedway into the 21st century, that can be added to "modern day hunting" & "the smell of cooking oil" on the what the fans say page! -
How Well is Your Club Promoted?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to IainB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I would say that Ipswich social media activity and website are one of strongest in UK speedway. They do enjoy great coverage from the local paper including live meeting updates on the Ipswich star website, BBC radio Suffolk and the other local station town 102. Hence they probably enjoy the best average attendance figures in the UK. -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Barry from what I have seen & read you're doing a fantastic job in not only promoting speedway but also shaking up the format. It would be great to see the Isle of Wight promotion put in charge of UK speedway and to see what you could achieve. You're certainly light years ahead of the current BSPA who seem to love quotes that compare there business to modern day hunting or the smell of cooking oil. Keep up the great work. -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Having attended my first match for 2years this week I have been giving this topic some thought, I'm prepared to be shot down so feel free to comment on my thoughts. I was introduced to the sport as a 12 year old in the late 80s. I was fortunate enough to witness my team in the old national League which to my mind is still the closest I've seen in this country to the sport being run professionally. The sport in that league was Great, each team in general only visited once a season the exception being for early season challenge or cup matches. There was also the national 4 team championship and pairs events plus the individuals which gave the different disciplines that everyone seems to be calling for and the best thing guest riding was outlawed each team had a proper functioning junior/reserve team. Anyhow why did I become hooked on speedway and gave up attending football? The ability to be able to go behind the scenes to the pit area pre match to see the preparation, collect rider autographs and actually speak the stars of the track. Then there was the smell & the noise something completely different to any other team sport. At that time my local track was still getting close to 4000 spectators a week including a decent number of visiting fans that gave the centre green mic man something to work with to create an atmosphere, the crowd generated noise actuall cheering of the home team and booing of the visitors that all led to the atmosphere. All this was underpinned by the feeling that this was your team they didn't leave as soon as the meeting was over and in some cases before because they had to leave to ride for someone else tomorrow. The sights the smell wer part of it but without that team aspect I wouldn't have fell in love with speedway. Move forward to the 2000s and I fell out of love with speedway and eventually gave up all together. Why? I was fed up seeing the same teams 2,3,4,5 times a season and sometimes with only a couple of weeks between visits, I got fed up as the doubling up and guest regulations became more and more relaxed so that at times the team I supported was made up of 3 riders from another club. For me the attachment to my team was lost and that was that. Now I attended very occasionally I think on average once a season since 2009, I've been to less home meetings in 12 years than I used to attend in a season. As for reinvention well the sport has to decide what it wants to be. A team sport in that case make it a team sport that people can attach too ditch doubling up and work to rid the sport of guests once and for all. If it's to be an individual sport then come up with some proper classes like other motor sport & run decent championship events. Whichever it decides the machinery, the track surfaces and the presentation need a radical rethink. -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I think the current fan base is split in two, those who think there is nothing wrong and would probably promote it in a positive manner on social media but they aren't active so SM. The second group are the fans who are active on SM but don't feel they can share or promote the sport because they see what's wrong. -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
That's great what you do, however you're doing that for existing speedway fans and sadly the number of existing speedway fans becomes smaller each year. It's the non speedway fans you need to attract that where the Isle of Wight is showing the way. -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Couple that with the image of Godfrey doing that press conference in his caravan* a year or so ago I'm surprised that big business and the media aren't falling over themselves to be involved! Sorry not his caravan but in his front room with drawn curtains and very poor light -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Those direct quotes made me laugh when I read the on the website a few days ago. As I said elsewhere those quotes are a mix of a dictatorships propaganda machine & someone who's high on something!! Certainly no real sane person ever said them -
Something along those lines could work. The old four competition from the 80s & 90s used to give cracking value for money and bags of entertainment. The only issue I think would be could the track surface handle that amount of action? In the old days with plenty of dirt no issues but now with most of the dirt removed I'm not so sure.
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Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
League racing will never give the buzz excitement or the drama while those who ride in opposition one night are team mates the next. The business model is flawed and everyone can see it except those that are in charge. The old like it or don't bother coming mentality will have only one outcome. Sadly that outcome is probably 5 to 10 years away at best. Whatever happens you can be sure it's all in the "interest of speedway" -
Speedway to reinvent itself?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to lbw's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Speedway could tap into it if it was run in a professional manner. Look at Poland those type of companies falling over themselves to be involved, multiple TV companies bidding for the TV rights. To stand any chance of getting those blue chip companies involved one of two things need to happen. Firstly the sport reinvents itself and becomes something that these companies want to be involved with that will take time. Secondly the sport draws up proposals to do something completely different and sells that vision to said companies although they would then be bound by a contract to deliver. You have to remember uk speedway had 10 plus years of lucrative TV contacts with sky and did absolutely nothing to reinvent it's self. If your were the board of a big blue chip company would you want your brand associated with uk speedway in its current guise? I wouldn't. -
British Speedway Official Website
cowboy cookie returns? replied to HackneyHawk's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
The piece on Mr Rising is very poor they should hang their heads in shame. As for the "what the fans say" what's written seems to be a mix of work by a dictatorship's propaganda department & a half wit who's high on something..... -
Why speedway is failing
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Rob B's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Maybe nothing new, however still makes a mockery of the sport. With your reply it's also proof if proof was needed that the powers that be are incapable of bringing about the change that is required. If Rick Miller also did something similar then the powers that be have done nothing in at least 30 years to try and correct it. The only thing to have happened in 30 years is a steady decline in attendance numbers, national & local press coverage. It's a sad fact but if speedway was a dog it would have been put out of its misery years ago. -
Why speedway is failing
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Rob B's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Look no further than Newcastle yesterday. A double header Newcastle v Poole followed by Newcastle v Plymouth. Alfie Bowtell rides for both Poole & Plymouth how can you take it seriously!! -
Why speedway is failing
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Rob B's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Once plenty of great riders came though the grass Louis,Loram,Screen, Schofield etc etc -
Why speedway is failing
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Rob B's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
A business plan, 1.Your staff will demand far more money than is coming into your business to find expensive equipment that is totally unsuited to the UK operation but they insist on having it because they do in other market places that have both the infrastructure & income to support it. 2.your staff demand these high wages in an attempt to survive for 12 months on 6 months income. 3.While your paying these unaffordable wages your staff can also sign a contract with another employer all be it in a slightly different sector of the same industry. While this has no direct disruption to your business as this sector works on a different day there is a risk of the employee injuring themselves or burning themselves out that would effect your business massively. 4.In addition to working in a slightly different sector your employees can also guest work for your direct competition as long as you're not open on that day. This could affect your business directly though injury to said employees or their efforts for your direct competition could mean that your competition is more successful than you thus costing you loss of income. All of the above is driven by a desire too become champions of your sector however points 2 to 4 mean that rising to the top has very little reward apart from a brief mention in your local paper because these points make the industry a non event. Finally should you succeed in achieving all your targets for the year and who knows even breakeven doing it then the other jealous employers in your sector will ensure that the employment rules are changed for the following year meaning they can grab your prized assets to being them success thus directly affecting your business. All this is overseen by the auditors who are infact the owners of both your direct and indirect competition who can change rules at a drop of a hat 'in the interest of your industry' Should you succeed in getting backers for your business plan make sure you don't mention the way the biggest market in the world can also control your employees with you having any say. -
Witches Vs Tigers
cowboy cookie returns? replied to cowboy cookie returns?'s topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Certainly the right call to postpone it -
No much interest in this fixture?
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Why speedway is failing
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Rob B's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
The ironic thing is all these rule changes, manipulation of the rules the guest fest and doubling up and down are all done "in the interest of speedway" couldn't make it up!! The short answer is the product is not worth the admission charge and the rules governing the product are rubbishe.