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Another Starman gem. Earlier posts already make clear that Wolverhampton and Lakeside are smaller. It's not as if there were many posts to read.

http://www.bellevueaces.co/newsitem.aspx?id=1558 An opportunity to walk the track after the meeting on Monday and raise funds for Darcy. Don't dish it out of you can't take it.

Likewise but some people are incapable of independent thought.

It looks as if Matej might be back for the final. http://www.bellevueaces.co/newsitem.aspx?id=1557

It's a worrying time for Belle Vue fans. Assuming Zagar's internal bleeding has stopped and he gives the GP a try then we have to hope that he comes through without the bleeding starting again. He was originally advised not to race again this season so the signs are not good. However, he wants to ride if he can so we shall have to wait and see. Unfortunately, unlike some guest replacements Jonsson doesn't strengthen us and probably makes us weaker for the away leg.

I think the reality of the situation is that Belle Vue have had ongoing discussions with BSI from the early stages of this project and received positive indications that they would look favourably on holding events at the new stadium, assuming of course it meets the required standards. The council were presented with a professionally evaluated business case as well as an impressive list of business leaders prepared to back the stadium and have been fully supportive of ensuring that those requirements are met. Apparently, nothing is yet signed or sealed with BSI but I can't believe the council would be providing a further £750,000 unless they were very sure that an agreement will be reached.

You really must read what people say and not reply to what you think they say. Surely, you must in your life have judged people on their previous actions.If someone lies to you do you think, oh well the next time they say something to me I will just accept what they say at face value or, like the rest of the human race, do you think I won't be fooled again, I shall look for something to support that he is telling the truth before accepting it. I'm not sure why you think I should be hammering the BSPA. I have not hammered anyone I have simply taken what you and others have previously said about your promotion and said that with that sort of perceived history it is hardly surprising that people are suspicious when a poorly performing rider is replaced by a guest who was likely to score more points. It is common sense. I have never said I believe what you have said about Poole and reminded you that I have said I would not form an opinion on the North incident without evidence. As for the BSPA, the reality is that they can do little faced with a medical certificate,

That is not strictly true. There is such a thing as similar fact evidence. If someone has used a similar method to commit a crime previously then that can be used as evidence against him and he could be convicted because of it. However, we are not talking about legal proceedings but general situations. If, as you believe about Poole, an organisation has done things in the past which cast doubt on their behaviour then it is perfectly reasonable for people to take that into account when trying to decide whether they think they have acted fairly in a more recent matter. If someone comes to your door and explains why they have done something which affects you and you later have reason to question what they said and did, you are certainly going to be more circumspect the next time they do something. Many would say it would be foolish to do otherwise.

Belle Vue are switching to Friday but using Wednesday when there is a GP. Both ourselves and Wolves have found problems signing riders as many don't want to race in Poland, the UK and Sweden on consecutive nights.

Comprehension is clearly a problem. I am not and have not challenged the veracity of the North situation. If you look back at my posts you will find I said we should wait until evidence was forthcoming before forming an opinion. The point I am trying to make and which I am sure most grasp, is that you cannot blame people being suspicious of an organisation which, by your own admission, has done things in the past which justify that suspicion. It is the organizational which is to blame not those who subsequently question their credibility. That does not mean that I approve of the more childish and extreme comments, they are not justified. As for North, it is not my opinion that he was out of form, his recent scores prove it.

Is it so difficult to grasp that many believe, including some of their own fans, that Poole have a history of using, shall we say, dubious tactics. Is it then a surprise that when an out of form rider is replaced by a guest, who most believed would score more, that people are suspicious and likely to believe the worst. It's human nature.

The rest of the team go well there? Your worst nightmare has come true. Ford avoided us on the semi final in the hope that Swindon would beat us. Poole's last match at Kirky Lane on 3 August, 2015. Belle Vue 53, Poole 39. Holder 3 (4) North 10 (5) Watt 5 (4) Gomolski 3(4) Jannowski 11(5) including TR Starke 0(4) Newman 7 (4) Now I'm not suggesting that this is going to be easy by any means, it's not and everyone tries to move up a gear for a Final but it does show that it is stretching reality to claim all apart from Starke go well there.

According to a report by Peter Oakes in the Daily Star Doyle will not be at Leicester next year. Mind you in the same report he refers to Belle Vue doing the treble in the 1990's so not exactly on the ball.

That's typical of the shortsightedness that bedevils the sport. Football at Premier League level is thriving so they don't yet have to worry about looking at the bigger picture, speedway was to a lesser extent in a similar position in the 1970's. However, today we have an ever shrinking EL with fewer and fewer clubs and ever dwindling support. It has now reached a stage where clubs must take an interest in the survival of their rivals because otherwise they will end up with no-one to race against. There has to be a plan involving all clubs working together to try to save the sport. Self interest has played a major part in the current demise.

But surely you can see that it is how people perceive what has happened in the past that makes many suspicious every time the club do something like replacing an out of form rider with a guest who is likely to score more points.

£20 admission at Belle Vue on Monday. Season tickets not valid but holders still get fast track admission and a free programme. Seems very reasonable, especially after charging normal price for the semi final.

The uncertainty must be worrying but let's hope everything turns out ok and we have two clubs with new stadiums next season.

Massive would be doing the treble in a league with 18 or so teams. Ford has achieved much in his time at Poole but at what benefit to the sport? Personally, I regard persuading a city council to fund and get built a purpose built speedway stadium a couple of miles outside the city centre as a massive achievement. That is excellent for the club and the sport as a whole in the UK.

I think Kildermand's problem lies with his peripheral vision. He keeps thinking someone is within a couple of metres of him and takes a dive.

Delighted with the result and you can't argue with wins home and away. All of the Aces did their best, you can ask no more and a special word for Mark Lemon, he has inspired the team this year. You have to feel for the Swindon fans they deserved a team giving 100% but didn't get anything like it. Rosco looked downbeat from the off and obviously couldn't motivate his riders, surely not a difficult task when taking part in such an important meeting. I was particularly surprised by the poor showing from Batchelor, I have never rated him highly but expected at least 6 points at home. Kildemand was also very poor, especially riding as a second string. The only Swindon riders who seemed to have any fight were Morris, Wright and Zengota when he made the gate.

Anyway, on to the match. I don't rule out a Swindon aggregate win but think the Aces should be able to keep it close enough to secure their place in the final.

I certainly can't be bothered looking back to find the matches but if you look at post #166 you will see that Orion, in a rare moment of lucidity, confirms it. If I remember, it was some rubbish about only being able to ride one or two matches a week so he couldn't fit Swindon in. Again, if memory serves, he immediately rode 3 matches in a week in Poland and Sweden. Orion also fails yet again in that post to understand that there was nothing underhand about the Aces having Jonsson on standby. They knew Zagar had suffered further internal bleeding after riding in the GP and that after resting for a week he was going to have a try out on Sunday. There was obviously a risk he wouldn't come through that try out so like any sensible promotion they had a rider on standby to replace him.

Is a bit rich Swindon fans complaining about a rider with a genuine injury who, very sensibly, decided to have a try out meeting to see if the injury had mended before riding in what is a very important meeting for his club. As has been reported his injury had not healed and he is going for further treatment today. Swindon fans would have preferred he didn't ride yesterday and instead took a chance today which, in the light of what has happened after riding yesterday, could have resulted in him not being able to give 100% and the Aces losing out on a place in the final. I can understand that but don't try to justify it by pretending to take the moral high ground when you have a history this season of using a guest for Miedzinski when he was obviously fit enough to ride.

What a shame and a loss for the Aces that Matej didn't come through his try out meeting today with a clean bill of health. Knowing his commitment to the Aces it must have been a difficult and disappointing decision for him to have to make but as he has said all along it would be wrong for him to ride in such an important meeting for the club if he is unable to give less than 100%. We know that AJ weakens us but know he will give his all and he is the best of those available.

Rosco has already apologised after accepting that riding in the GP caused furthest internal bleeding but obviously you disagree with him. Again it was made plain that riding today was to see if it was going to cause the same or similar problems but you seem to have difficulty understanding that as well.