mikebv

And if you compare the cost of living, and average salaries, in both countries, then the UK, pro rata, is quite a bit less

I concur re Poland, will be going again this season, several times... I think they miss a great opportunity to use the Manchester city centre as a "GP Hub"... Meet the riders etc.. Well over a hundred thousand people will be going through there on the Friday and Saturday... What an opportunity to not only advertise a "Flagship" event, to create some "Big Event" feel for Speedway, but also, off the back of it, advertise the Aces and UK Speedway in general... And all to an audience who, in the main, won't have a clue who you are, or what you do... A "gift horse" if ever there was one for the Aces.. As for the pricing? I will be watching world class action, with most riders there not riding over here... I woukd rather pay over £60 for that, than around £30 for some contrived, Mickey Mouse, domestic offerings..

Cardiff was an overall great day out... Until it wasn't, as the novelty wore off.. The racing certainly didn't often stand up to scrutiny of being the reason for going... I think just over £60 a night in the South Stand is VFM considering I have just laid out nearly £30 for the PCMT...

Pretty much the same was said last year. And they came pretty close to selling out both nights.. I suppose if they do the same again, then their pricing has been proved correct...

As the Great Tony Wilson said... "This is Manchester" "We do things differently here"..

Did they replace them with "Guests"?

A bit harsh.... He was only one month out.... Not a bad effort really when it comes to the history of Speedway promoting in the UK.....

Stifles aspiration, and ambition,and is clearly open to manipulation.. If must be quite annoying for a rider to miss out on a team place by a few decimal points, knowing one of his team mates last year let him finish in front of him, which, ultimately put his average "too high"... Even more so if a "bonus point king" gets the place he could have had!!!

Ahhh, but.... You need to use such a highly scientific system like rider averages because it means that every season, every team, starts the season almost completely equal... Well. Apart obviously from those teams who get named on here, before a wheel is turned, as a shoe in for the play offs, or, alternatively, correclty named as spending the season as complete and utter cannon fodder... It works so well doesn't it?..

So.... Basically, promoters thought that an authentic and relevant league, that had some resonance, and ran during the warmer months, would negatively impact their unauthentic, and largely irrelevant league, with minimal, if any, resonance, (that they would still run), using the colder months too?... In summary... "This product would deliver what many fans want, and would engage them to attend, but then they wouldn't turn up to watch the usual contrived stuff we cobble together each season".. They probably wouldn't be wrong would they?

Could make sense... Maybe 'The Mad Hatter' has been involved?....

Are any of fhe riders mentioned left handed? I think there may be a sub reg which allows a further reduction in averages of left handed riders... Just as long as they can a) prove they are left handed and b) prove it by the end of February.. All that needs to happen is for a BSP Official to hand the rider a pen and see how he writes with it... Mickey Mouse has just looked at his BSP watch that he got for Christmas off Minnie, and confirmed officially that today is the 26th of February, so still time left...

Mmmmmmm. Who will I pick? Decisions, decisions..... I may need to sleep on it, and decide tomorrow...

I like it.... "Come and watch UK Team Speedway!! (But ignore all the 'FAFF!')".. Just get that up on all the major Social Media sites... Bound to be a winner...

But if so.. You would be talking about going to see people who are the very top of their field of work, known around the globe by millions, and performing in an industry that generates billions of pounds... Not a tiny, minority sport... The standing admission fees seem OK... At the highest end of the scale I would suggest, but OK, (just)...

That's only £346.50 a night though Iain.... Take five hundred quid out with you, each night, and you will still have enough for the bus fares home and twenty Woodbines...

The perfect example of an overseas rider that adds something to UK Speedway, and will be greatly missed.. Unlike so many overseas journeymen down the years, and still the same today, who will hardly be noticed, never mind missed... Yet will have blocked medium to long term UK rider development... Edit. His Heat 15 at the NSS a few years ago, with Doyle, Kurtz and Bewley, when Ipswich knocked the Aces out of the PO's, was one of the best races I have ever seen in Team Speedway..

They have been quite critical of the whole thing in several pieces written... Fairly done as well...

Doyle would have to drop a league overseas to come back, and will have signed contracts... And Sayfutdinov would need a new visa, (which is why he left wasnt it as it ran out?)... A new promotion would struggle to be a sponsor too I think given the rules that need to be followed..

I'll start.... I see your £15k and raise it by twenty pounds... Could be a long thread this... I seem to remember the bond has changed down the years with the last I heard it being £50k.. However, I also seem to remember it changing into assets also being part of the bond, rather than just cash, hence new promoters in particular were encouraged to make riders into their assets.. (Which also often meant more, unattached in the UK, overseas journeymen coming over who became as asset. Great for UK rider development!!).. Obviously, there are no assets anymore, so if a track closes the BSP no longer inherits the riders and are, therefore, no longer able to either loan or sell them to other teams to help pay the debts of the closed track.. I can't believe the bond is £50k though anymore to be honest, given so few people seem interested in coming into the sport to promote... £15,025, my final bid...

A sport, in the UK, simply set up for a few dozen riders so they can earn money... And set up so some people, with enough money, can have an expensive hobby which they love being a central part of... The fans being invited along to help subsidise the costs, and keep them within reason for the person whose hobby it is... UK Speedway is no more than this.. The BSN package looks excellent value for money for "generic fans", who just enjoy watching Speedway without bothering too much who wins and who doesn't.. Hope they have a good season with plenty of subscribers.

It is great value isn't it? Clubs then charging £15 or so for their own stream could look somewhat excessive when compared to BSN...

Apologies... Thought you were comparing this years potential Ipswich to last years Lions... Ipswich and Leicester, this year,could be of a similar level.... Who cares? Will be the sports biggest challenge.

Fricke was a race winner, and top of the averages.. You cannot then lose race points when he wins.. The possible Ipswich team won't be winning too many Heats One, Thirteen and Fifteen, I would think given the one and fives for the other teams... That could easily be an eight point swing as a minimum..

This is a LOCAL forum for LOCAL people... We'll have no shouting in here.... Are you local? Edmund! There is a Swansea!!!... Lines and Lines and Lines... Etc, etc, etc..