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Getting things wrong, Hmmmm. Bit of a tenuous link that . It was stated on here that Scott had been signed in December/January and I quoted that, but I have now been told that he was signed before the AGM, early November I hear, and I reported that.

So really it didn't matter how wide the straight was. Actually at Newcastle other riders used to do exactly the same to James.

There could be two versions of the truth though.

Your opinion, but others could say a person who breaks rules he has signed to uphold, deserves sometimes a harsh sentence.

Narrow tracks don't stop it now do they.

Surely it has been Ged's decisions that has caused the problems and attracted opposition, especially his actions on Holdergate. The Scott affair was deemed illegal and now been corrected, but Ged has not played a straight bat with this matter, and could and should have acted in a less combative way. I think there has been a bit of twit for tat between Ged and the BSPA, but there is a way of working with your partners in any organisation and this is not a good case of that.

Not everything makes it to the News release as well we all know. Actually I might have to revise my previous statement when I said that Ged had signed Scott in December or January. I'm told he signed him before the AGM and it was well known.

Mute point that as all transfers between clubs have to be signed by all 3 participants. The riders signature is for him to agree to take a 10%age of the deal, or to forgo his share at that stage to collect his share of a future and larger transfer deal. If he doesn't take a %age I think after 10 years, he is entitled to a benefit meeting. In the case of KK, or any non ACU/SCB riders, their ownership transfers to the BSPA to decide what is the best solution. When you sign a non ACU/SCB rider, it is the BSPA who acts as the agent with the riders federation to issue 'rights to ride in the UK' not the club.

That's right, and it is used to pay all speedway debts, that is to the BSPA, Clubs and riders.

No, that's an over statement. It was agreed at the AGM when Peterborough was not represented. Ged signed Nicholls in about December or January, when he could/should have known it was not allowed under the AGM decisions. Far better to highlight is illegality and test the decision, and not sign Scott, which really was an attempt to rock the boat rather than seek clarification of its lawfulness. Problem is when onlookers dislike the BSPA, along comes someone who breaks the rules and rigidly flaunts actions against a AGM decision , and he suddenly becomes the peoples champion. Sad Sad. Swop the personalties and substitute Matt for Ged and the speedway world would go mad with such arrogance. It is and has to be a closed shop, embracing ALL the BSPA, how else can a committee in charge of British Speedway operate ? The latter part of that para is way over the top IMO. Which is exactly what I said. They ALL need to work together to run speedway, even if they have natural leanings for or against other promotions. Again spite and vindictiveness is way over the top IMO.

It is correct that they have to have riders to a value of, or place a financial bond with the BSPA to that value. Obviously for the riders to have value to the new promotion, they would have to own them, otherwise they would just be loan riders. The value of the bond is considerably higher in the higher league. If the promotion sells an asset, and they are below the bond value, or now below after the sale, they can be urged by the BSPA to sign riders, or place a financial bond for the difference. NB Asset in terms of holding the riders permit to ride in the UK.

Well done to the Berwick promotion.

Have to agree there. How many times, other than the start, is the track needed to be wider than say 8m which is the minimum width as laid down by the SCB Regulations. There is usually only need for about 2m used when two bikes are alongside each before taking a line into the bend. Extra width on the bends is far more beneficial but, like Glasgow is, the width will only get used with decent banking for the outside and under lines being a challenge to each other A flat track being widened on the bends does nothing for the outside racing lines.

But it doesn't say that couldn't change, just he has not had offers.

In 2016 he rode for Sheffield and I spoke to him after his 0 0 0 meeting at our place. He said he hated it, and couldn't get round it, but I held the second half back for him to have another couple of rides to help him. His average at the Newcastle meetings was 2.18, against his PL average of 2.09. It wasn't a good year for him coming the season after a bit of bother on the track I believe. Last year in the PL he had a Newcastle average of 4.89, as against a PL average for Ippy of 4.49. So actually his average for Brough was better in both years than the average of all the other tracks. Source :- SCB - Speedway Stats

Not assets, but clubs hold the registration to ride in the UK. How does the law stand then when a rider has a visa, but wants to change clubs midseason. Surely your statement can't be true in those circumstances.

Don't agree Chris. Only if Ged tries something on will he get opposition, abide by the rules and it's welcome back. Don't forget you have to work together every week in the background regarding fixtures , guests, etc, so no point in making it harder to cooperate with each other. Every team needs favours from the rest of BSPA from time to time, to resolve issues ongoing all year.

Think you had better move on before you make a bigger fool of yourself,

Let's hope so. Perhaps with us not riding every Sunday he could pick and chose his other sports meetings. We got used to that with our former no 1 last year.

....and ???? incidently, I've also two words for you and your lying and deceit on this thread.

Rubbish. It is an arbitrary limit on team strength, and anybody could be signed to make a team within that limit. No restraint of trade in any way. If it was illegal it would mean every rider without a team could sue for not being chosen to ride. Don't get on here much lately then. There is more on here that wouldn't agree with any decision the BSPA made, even if the idea was a good decision like the points system.

And still in denial and lying.

The two cases are entirely different. One was found to be unlawful, and the other isn't.

Thanks for that. I knew he had won a prize for best newcomer a couple of years ago, and was taking Stox a lot more serious. Knew about his grass tracking but didn't know about him now doing long track. A combination of those sports, and seems it's unlikely we will see him at Brough this season.

Yes he does, and he is quite good at it, hence my comments that he is very Southern with his interests. I believe he still works at Rye House doing up the stadium with Robbo, which could be a relationship that could make the travel a bit easier, especially if his Stoxs are on the Saturday, which is not every Saturday anyway. Perks on 5.08 would be our 4th highest signing and I could see the reserves changing on a monthly basis with Tero, Ash, Perks and Wilko. No matter who are the two reserves we are going to be strong at the bottom, and good enough to plug holes when someone else is missing, or not on form on the night. Perks had wonderfull form for Redcar early in the season, and scored something like 13 points against us when we were there. Unfortunately his form dropped a little, hence his 5.08 average at the end.