Ghosty

Any business that's main income comes in the form of cash WILL be tempted to make no or very little profit.....nudge, nudge, wink, wink.............?

Has no one any views on the either way?

Yet again we have weakened teams for 2018 defended by the need to cut cost. BUT unlike other sports or businesses riders are paid (or should be) per point scored. There are only 90 points to be scored/ paid for per meeting (yes & some bonus points if paid) so it should make no difference how strong our top league is ONLY what "promoters" pay per point. A strong league SHOULD attract more punters = higher gate receipts. So with everything considered, agreed points money should be offered to all potential riders for 2018 then all those that agree put in a hat & shared out evenly over all teams. P.S. YES I DO KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN - TO EASY.

Yet again we have weakened teams for 2018 defended by the need to cut cost. BUT unlike other sports or businesses riders are paid (or should be) per point scored. There are only 90 points to be scored/ paid for per meeting (yes & some bonus points if paid) so it should make no difference how strong our top league is ONLY what "promoters" pay per point. A strong league SHOULD attract more punters = higher gate receipts. So with everything considered, agreed points money should be offered to all potential riders for 2018 then all those that agree put in a hat & shared out evenly over all teams. P.S. YES I DO KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN - TO EASY.

Thank's for the reply MANSE, I had not seen any indication that any of the 2017 squad wanted to move on - so thank you for you fresh information. It does seem odd that by all accounts a superb track, stadium, & pay master would have riders wanting to leave?

The Glasgow Tigers do look a very good team on paper, they will need to gel as a team & stay injury free, then results will follow. However the promotions loyalty to the 2017 squad - IT STINKS! If your favorite tiger from 2017 is no longer a tiger (100% chance) you may choose not to support the tigers in 2018 that also might include local riders sponsors. It will be interesting seeing 2018 unfold in the tigers den, riders will know if the TEAM does not perform you may be elsewhere in 2019.

Fact is Peter Adams is the most successful team & rider manager over the last 30 years & never ridden a bike. Tony Jackson blood is comets blue & white!

Quote from today's press release: PREMIERSHIP and Championship leagues team points average increased to 42.5 with the Premiership permitted one rider of an average of 8.00 or more. Championship has no restrictions. Surely they have got this "ass about face" there are far to many "top riders" riding in the Championship that should be exclusively (UK wise) in the Premiership & most of them English! ​This is stopping the natural progression of our own young talent from Conference to Championship. Looks to me that the Championship promoters have to much clout with voting, Yet again not good for the future of G.B. speedway anyone else agree?

Sorry but that won't work, the gate revenue between the "haves" & "have nots" is to great. It would only work if we had a huge league sponsor or TV deal that paid the majority of the wage bill. A big problem for the AGM to sort is that there is not a big enough step between the rider standard in the Premiership over the Championship. I'm sure this was deliberate in 2017 but it did not work. If Championship pay £? per point the the Premiership has to pay £? x2. I would like to see any rider missing a 2018 league fixture (other than injury etc.) to be fined £50 & their team fined £100 with all the fines going to the riders BEN fund.

It has to be this is the last chance saloon ............ otherwise Speedway G.B. is doomed!

It's not the fixed race nights alone that will attract the fans, although regular home fixtures are a must. What SHOULD attract the fans will be a HOME 1 to 7 v a VISITING 1 to 7 something very rare in recent times. Most do not like the idea of fixed race nights but I think it is the only solution for the U.K. Mondays & Wednesdays for 2018 BUT Wednesdays & Thursdays for 2019. Also days should be identified now when rained off fixtures could be run IF NEEDED.

This seem very quiet re. the AGM, have they announced the introduction of the all important purple helmet colour for 2018?

As Matt Ford has got his team sorted, the main agenda will be to agree to any riders on assessed averages & capped the limit to suit the Pirates!!!! OR will they get down to the total revamp the sport needs in the U.K? No alcohol a BSPA meeting a good starting point!

Living in remote town like Cairns, having an engine with longer service intervals would be very useful, anyone know what Dave Jackson is doing nowadays?

Matt has got his team sorted for sure, all he has to do is get his fellow promoters to agree to his points cap!!!

This years AGM must make decisions to give our sport some CREDIBILITY. Bold decisions will have to be made & not meet halfway. Fixed race nights for the Premier league is a must, but this will only work if the Championship don't use those SAME NIGHTs. A fixed pay scale would be good - offer it to all potential riders - those that accept will be the ones you build your teams around with points limit depending on rider commitment. We also need a distinct difference as to the levels of the Premier & Championship - the Championship should only use U.K. based riders. A meaningful fixture list should exist for all tracks, if it's fewer meetings then shorten the season! Good luck AGM please surprise us this year.

Fantastic talent on a bike, up there with the best.

I would like it done @ all Promoters meetings, the AGM in particular!

I would think the ONLY certainty of a 2018 team place is the very talented & popular Dan Bewley............ the rest of the team will be determined by averages & cost, one thing for sure, most riders would love to have Belle Vue as their home race track.

Debbie............ As long as there are enough punters, how about organizing a Christmas /New Year Dinner @ the Oaktree!

Well said & well balanced, fact is Belle Vue were so good @ producing speedway talent in the 70s & 80s that they are unique with so many ex riders. I can see this from both sides & as you say " I don't believe the public domain is the place to achieve a satisfactory solution" P.S. The current BV promotion are doing a fantastic job & PC is a icon.

Debbie & Co. took a very brave decision to move up a league in 2017 the promise of star riders leading visiting teams (& attracting extra punters) very rarely happened....... basically they were sh-t on week on week. Huge amounts of money was lost with star riders missing they must have been so glad to see the season end....... the shenanigans with the presentations do must have been the final straw! P.S. It is worth noting that punters that did attend had brilliant racing served up week on week throughout 2017 ..... a credit to the promotion & track staff.

The BSPA should already be planning now for Premier league Wednesdays & Thursdays for the 2019 season. The current situation is we (the UK) are THIRD in the pecking order behind Poland & Sweden we should make UK Premier league racing an attractive proposition to all the top European based racers, then CHEERY PICK WHO WE WANT! not rocket science is it?

Nothing simpler than the existing system, there are 101 things that need sorting in speedway but riders & team averages are best left as they are.

You are talking "Flapper valves" these are designed to discharge oil, this "could" be piped to your oil tank but does come with same pressure! Try getting hold of AKB Arthur Browning as he's raced a 2 valve at the IOM. Interesting project.