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All three added with Michael Graves, who i thought would do better.

What i am saying Knudsen (ect) were in a far harder league miles harder I have seen both riders RIsager / Lambert for me Lambert was the better (ie) because his gating was very poor but did well also Lambert did it in a top five all season.

Custom was Broady a true white liner? my uncle said Fundin also was one but a GREAT one. I often wondered if this was the reason that Craven had a great head to head record with Fundin what is your respected opinion.!!

Can hold my own with you not Did you see him race being a mascot? and at aged 16 race? Yes or Know? Or did you see him in the 90s ?. I did see him at Hackney a fair bit one year at reserve sometimes with TItman i always liked him and later on what a racer he was and ( ie) he is a real nice guy.Dont prejudge me did you see him ride in the eighties?

Knudsen as an example if your brain can take it in!! not that you ever see him ride did YOU? at a 16/ 17 old old averaging Six plus in a really tough BL.Risager was highly rated showed promise but that product was watered down a really diluted product there are endless teenagers who have been highly rated.

I see him at 16 mate Loram did you ??? you and Witcher are the two clowns of the forum that i should not even bother with but you are good value and you add loads to the forum apart from your Poole pathetic bias.!!!Give Witcher a text!!,

Shawn McConnell great value mr entertainment!,

A big mistake on my part WK, you have warned me endless times Thankyou for that!,not to react i did very badly.I have not spoken to Witcher for weeks,yet i spoke and there is no doubt in my mind he has intentionally inflamed the position a pre meditated act.Again no excuses my own fault not a problem with that there are some great people on the forum great company great /value. He will do well good luck to the lad i think he will have a good season,i would love a seven plus average at Lynn he is well capable his gating does worry me a big talent no doubt.

I know that RIsager was rated are you that thick.? my point was that at no time in my memory was he rated higher than Nielsen , Gundersen ,Knudsen do you get that! don't respond to me please to be honest you are a pain in the ASS move on and p..s someone else off. ,

You are such a sad individual Ok i say to you i am wrong are you happy then?? happy ?.CALL me a tool not a problem with that,i can live with that i should Know better debating with you is impossible Why? because you have to be the WINNER at all costs a shame really.I should not even read your posts because you are the same old same old, you believe you are SUPERIOR in my mind you are a total PLANK now go away and cry and try to get me banned.!! not that i give a s...t.

Thanks for that,but believe me there is no bigger one than you,when i think of you the old Stevie Wonder record comes to mind He's Misstra Know it all.!!

Hancock/ Holder are poor examples as the people i know most of those always rated those two both were different eras to Lee and as a gage of talent Lee would be the worst example for anybody to judge themselves against.

FACT you love the word i know more than you that Risager was highly rated was he as good as a young Lambert NO in my book.He was never as good as the three i have mentioned endless Danish riders over the years have been highly rated. Please forget the stats Risager was not in the same league as those two also the league then was dying, that Nielsen average 7.25 was a real healthy figure in a decent league.

I am not agreeing my memory is poor as you have told me,i remember Risager being rated but he was never ever in the same parish as the three i have named that's my point.

Surely in your lifetime you have heard that certain riders are highly rated? do you not judge them when you see them ride? Then make a judgement Veijo T? the Finn at Swindon did ok at Eastbourne was highly rated was totally inept at Swindon.2We had all heard that Risager was highly rated but he was light years behind the riders i have mentioned.

And how many riders have we said that about? not fact an opinion no more no less did you ever think he would be on the level with Nielsen surely not.And did you ever see a young Knudsen( under mentor Olsen)? probably not,Briggo put forward Sumner McKnight and how poor was he had the press and gossip said he was a star he was decent but it never quite happened for him in England.

What you ? and Iris thanks,was Risager rated higher than the three i named EVER? yes or no ? I see Knudsen as a 16/ 17 kid under the wing of Olsen in a different league to Risager he was promising no more than that end of.

No i just went by my own opinion, and are you seriously telling me Risager was EVER rated as highly as the three i named and believe me IRis i think my memory will be always be able to compete with you not a problem.

I never ever heard from anybody that Risager was that highly rated,?certainly not in the league of NIelsen,Gundo,Knudsen.

Lee i see as a 16 year old in the Silver Plume at Swindon he scored 10 pts a mega talent.He averaged 9 plus in a very hard NL at the age of 16 some doing Eh.

I would not put Lambert at Lee and Wards level (ie) those two have to be the most talented riders ever?.Lambert though is a talent when i have seen him his gating is very poor but he is rounded a very good rider indeed a thinking rider one ride this year he produced at Lakeside this year was awesome.

Was Risager in the top five? and you don't convince me that you rate Lambert? Risager i see a few times i think he rode with Smolinski on a few accasions he was decent no disrespect was never EVER going to be a star.

A poor example have a rethink ? you yourself do you rate Lambert or not? forget the stats and figures and age Risager was not in the same league at the same stage.

I agree WK certainly,what do you think a massive fine ? goes to Charity ?he has Ward i believe got away off very lightly.On another subject you never really agreed with the decimation of the one off final like myself , this years GP series is not the top 16 riders in the world it should be but it is not what do you think?

Hitch with his funny style i loved watching him race, he was a proper racer! i Also i think Broady had a crab style a really great rider his World Final record superb also reaching the NL riders championship when an oldie i think he was in 1975 NL championship when Lee reached it at the age of 16 a number one at Boston Broady was a legend.