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What does that mean ?

Utterly effing pathetic that yet another TV company employs Ermolenko... Why ?

The Arena is looking a 'colourful place now. Battleship grey down the straights and 'dirty underpants' grey-brown for airfence and centre 'green'. Looks class.

Has anyone checked to see if Mr Bates is concious ?

What a weird question to ask ... Surely a bit of thought could have worked this out without disturbing the grey matter too much.

Riders coming out ...

Sound has been fixed now.

Through virgin in my case. It's really not difficult to work out that people usually get access to eurosport via means other than the player.

Well, it is exactly the same.

Videos of Odsal online from last night show crowd obviously well in excess of 2000 as some have suggested here. 4k looks more likely.

Grandstand supports ? I understand that the supports under the 'new' facilty on the third and fourth bends would need added protection of some sort but surely no spectators would have their view blocked there ?

Did anyone actually go to Odsal this weekend and have any first hand into on how the whole thing went etc. ?

What would be your suggestion that isn't in essence a 'points limit' in another giuse.

Complete fantasy land thinking.

Yes I have a similar memory of all that ... The belle vue meeting after the world final would have dragged the 85 average up ... On its own it must have been 5000+,

As some one else has stated the crowd for the 85 belle vue meeting was quite a bit more than half of 6385. But the rest of your post is spot on and just bolsters my opinion that a return to The Shay in the nineties was NEVER a realistic possibility no matter what others are saying now, due to the changes already occurring to the configuration; and greater changes in the planning process as well.

I don't doubt that. But I still don't believe that Calderdale ever made any form of real offer for Speedway to go back; in preference to the North and South stand construction in 1997ish that squared off the stadium for football and rugby. That was the only plan on the table.

That's just it ... I don't think ANYTHING along those lines came within a million miles of the narrative at the time, as far as Calderdale were concerned.

I was thinking of something a little more factual than 'somebody from Halifax (I think it was the council)' ... Doesn't really add to my understanding at all

Please can you give more details on this offer ... I have no memory of ever hearing of this at the time or since.

Just looking at the latest updates from the work being done at Odsal shows it could easily become an option for Speedway of some sort over the next few years. No way is it a Cardiff or Wembley but as a Stadium capable of holding 20,000 with a track in situ it is a no-brainer that it is only a matter of time before something does happen.

NO you stated that there was a capacity crowd at Wembley in 1970 ... And that was complete fantasy. ... But because the 40 k made a lot of noise it misled you. And 40k at Cardiff making a he'll of a lot of noise ... That is some sort of failure. La La land.

But it just shows that you are talking fantasy numbers ... About today and about 1970.

There was nothing like a capacity crowd at Wembley for the WTC Final in 1970. Estimates in the Star put it at 40k ...

Article written by the guy who has been pushing his new book for a few weeks. Pretty bland and superficial look at the sport, which in the most part could have been written by a blindfolded schoolchild at any point in the last twenty five years.