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Why is it silly ..not one PL would beat a EL team .

Not again ....you been told a million times why it it's called that but you still fail to take it in . Not sure how many more times it has to be explained .

Can you debate ? you know nothing about Speedway or Horse Racing I bet you work at Tesco's,. my mates down the pub say your a idiot not like my mate Starman he knows the time of day . I don't give a toss what you say anyhow I will meet you at lakeside tie my hands behind my back and and give you the first 3 punches .

Yea bring back Sidney ...have you ever made a mistake ?

Who's had a longer Ban ..Sidney or Ward

No you should have put it where the Speedway Betting is normally put ..it's not hard .

Looks like you have not completed your line up as you have forgotten Wolves in the El . Why is this Topic in the El anyhow ?

Could you add the speedway forum to that list

That is one way of looking at it ..the other is without these rules then he would little choice but to ride aboard .

PL fans desperate for the El to fail ...never really got this mind set when we are suppose to be supporting the same sport . this us and them does the sport no favours .

Don't think there is either was in control or she was not . she still had the same amount of drink in her no matter who slept with her and that is what the case depends on .. no drunk girl no case . Anyhow time to watch the darts with those great role models Phil Taylor and Klassen

The whole case is about her being so drunk she could not defend her self without that there is no case as there was no sign of her being forced .

It's not a surprise at all ....Are you saying she was to drunk or not ? . The crown case that she was out of head she had no control it's black and white . As Arson Fire points out the women had the same amount of drink inside her no matter who had sex with her . Seeing that case it's all based on her being to drunk then the fact she went back with Mcdonald to the hotel room means nothing if that is there case

Not at all .could be plenty of the reasons . The jury no doubt could have not enjoyed the way he acted and taught him a lesson . As I said Jury never gave a statement why they find him guilty so I said it's not fact it's a pure guess . As I said a number of times if was out of head and unable to control her self and that is the crowns case then it would be impossible to find one guilty and not the other .

Did they ? I never knew that the jury gave out the statements on why they came to there verdicts . The women admits she drinks a lot more than that on a normal night so you can't really go with low the Torerance to Alcohol Stuf also I rather go with an expect on the effects of alcohol rather than a night poter but each to there own I guess .. The last cctv pictues and the most important can be see on the Ched Evans website and the women even with big platform shoes on never falls over and picks up a pizza box of the floor with no trouble at all .

Yet again the crowns case was quite clear that she could not defend herself v the two man not just Evans as she was out her mind even thou the amount she drank made that nearly impossible a point put forward by a expert in the case .. Either she was out of head or not the fact that she went back with Mcdonald or Evans went down the fire escape has no bearing on that .

Nothing like that ..she was judge to have been out of head after 2 and half pints of lager ...as I said many times before the case was base on being of her head as you clearly point out she never was .. the difference is quite clear the verdict was a joke . At no time has she ever said she went willingly with McDonald her case has been she was she was out of her head to have sex with both of them .

I Don't think so ...F1 drivers would be right near the top as unlike Speedway it's popular with the public as shown by the sports awards last sunday

I expect it's the same Webster who when she done the darts was more than happy to talk and joke with Phil Taylor ...maybe she went back to his caravan after ?

I used the word scumbag for the way he acted not that he was found guilty of rape as I don't think he should have been found guilty there a big difference .. that's what Scb was replying to .

It's not about him having sex thou it's the way he went about it plus the fact he had a girlfriend etc etc . I agree he should be allowed to fit back into society thou after he done his time thou his stance about being not guilty what is fair enough and understandable if he is will not help him to play football any time soon by the looks of it .

Sorry after reading your post again I got the wrong end of the stick of what you meant /said .

Some people find your viewpoint strange ..if you believe in the British justice system then you should able to work again once you served your time after all that is how it's supposed to work . No wonder people go back to crime if this is the state of things . I Think me and many others who don't think he should have been found guilty think he still a scumbag for the way he acted . I don't think that has ever been in question .

I would say a rapist would more of a danger as a bin man painter etc etc than a footie player . Much more important than a couple of football songs .

Or this one .