Gavan

There is no devils advocate to play! The facts are these: Tai Woffinden wasnt ready to race Magic Janowski wasnt ready to race Bartosz Zmarzlik wasnt ready to race Greg Hancock.............was pretty much ready. Its irrelevant wether Tai was up at tapes......5 metres back.......10 metres back..............in the pits! 3 riders should have been excluded (minimum) If you want to play devils advocate then the fact is Tai was probably the most ready to race of all of them, he had done his 'gardening and pulled back a bit to let Janowski do his and cool his clutch. What you are saying is that if Tai was at the tapes clutch cooling that would be ok? The fact is everyone can see why Tai was excluded...................the issue is he wasnt the only one ..................and i wish people would stop using the phrase 'riders were at the tapes'...............100% irrelevent

The problem that Poole have is that their top 5 at Somerset in both matches have been poor. Somersets top have outscored Pooles top 5 by 15 and 13 points at home, meaning if Pooles reserves have a poor night then it could be a 20 point reverse. At Wimborne Road last time against a weakened Somerset Pooles 1-5 were outscored by 8 points including only 4 for r/r for Lawson. Its pretty obvious that 2 or 3 of Pooles top 5 need to up there game to keep it close at Somerset Also Freddie only got 3 their last time and Worrall 2 , if they dont improve on that then Poole may well find they have a rather large deficit to make up

Poole and the words proper race track to not go together! Leicester is an appalling track i agree , but isnt having speedway better than having no speedway? I agree that shape and size is important but whats more important is that Swindon has speedway. Or maybe we could just have one league of decent race tracks and shut the others down. Belle Vue, Kings Lynn, Somerset, Wolves , Peterborough , Scunthorpe and Workington just in one league. Its not the racetrack and the racing that stops people going its more about the success of the team. If Leicester were top of the league more fans would go and would endure the poor quality. At Ipswich the crowds were down in the last few year of the elite league as the team was appalling. Since dropping down the crowds have flocked back but the racing has been no better. When we thrashed everyone in 1998 the racing was largely boring we were hammering most teams yet we had big crowds...the reason......we were winning every week You must realise this as Poole fans only turn up when the team does well.

In my mind Milik should have no chance at all of getting a wild card, his form this season hasnt been good enough and he is not as good as any of the riders he will be replacing

Lol hilarious On aggregate at Kings Lynn beating by 28 On aggregate at Belle Vue beaten by 10.....................yes quite clearly you go better at Lynn You spout rubbish daily and you dont even know about your own team lol

Greatest races are subjective in the excitement they provide. No doubt in my mind that heat 13 was the best race ive witnessed but it wasnt the most exciting as i have no affinity to any of the riders. Most of the races that i found the most thrilling will almost always involve Mark Loram as we knew and watched him from an early 14 year old. British Final run off 1997 Swedish Grand Prix 1999 final Polish meeting 2001 v the Gollob brothers (its on you tube) These will always be the races when i watch them now that make the hairs stand up on the back of my neck Other races that ive seen that i like watching again is Joe Screen , also in Poland, splitting the team riding of Hamill and Swist (i think) and also the Goldbarre in Vojens in 1990 where Jan O Pedersen starts on the back row of 8 riders and misses the start so badly he is stone last then proceeds to overtake everyone..........not just journeyman riders, but Nielsen, Nilsen, Correy, Jonsson, Karger, Cross and Jorgensen...........watch it on you tube if you have never seen it

Hugely under rated rider who i think many mock due to his gp record, but he qualified on merit every year. 5th and 7th in two world finals 3x British Champion in a row against such takent as Havvy, Dugard, Screen , Loram , Louis, Tatum, Doncaster was no mean feat. Cant see how Jack Smith will even come close to a career like that but wish him well

So it appears we now cant see a great race unless a Poole rider is involved lol

I wouldnt say Holder was back on it, just had his bikes set up from the gate and was able to slot into scoring positions. Did well when Lindgren was hard on him but was the only rider pretty much to be overtaken when Tai passed him. A good meeting for him yes , but the track was a gaters paradise hence the riders scores were pretty much bunched together. No surprise to me that the top scorers in the qualifiers had either gates 1 or 3 twice. Doyle to be fair was lucky to end up on 13 as he benefitted from both Janowski and Cook breaking down. Hancock would have been top scorer on 12 which shows that riders were all beating each other depending where they started from.

Never said Tai was ready to race The fact is the other 3 werent either they were still all gardening, (possible exception of Hancock). Janowski was kicking and digging away and Tai was sat bike on one side cooling his clutch watching him.

I dont believe Robert is better that Vaculik but Holder yes 100% Holder has been off the pace all season and was lucky this year to get a wildcard so i dont believe he should get another one. Vaculik has won a gp so yes there is an arguement there i guess. Otherwise there will be a very good case that those 9-12 will be the 4 wild cards. they could easily go Laguta/Emil , Zagar, Pedersen , Holder/Vaculik. For me the big question is quality not just bringing in new faces hey have to be as good as if not better. I get fed up with those knocking Hancock. Yes he is a gating tart and not my favourite rider but he produced a masterclass of race riding to keep Zmarzlik behind him. Would it be boring to have 4 same riders back? Maybe but give me Laguta , Emil or Zagar or Pedersen over a Milik anyday

Think you need to understand the rules before commenting. Its irrelevant if your at the tapes, 5 metres back, 10 metres back , turned around and rode back, if your not ready to race your not ready to race. Tai wasnt ready to race when the 2 minutes finished...................but neither were the other 3, Janowski certainly wasnt he was still gardening, its irrelevant that he was closer to the tapes than Tai was, he still wasnt lined up ready to race. Tai had actually just sat back and let the Poles either side do there gardening , technically he was more ready to race then both of those. By your definition you can be at the tapes , off your bike gardening , but thats ok...............it isnt your still not ready to race as the rules state

Think that whoever gets 9th and 10th this season will be back in again. Cant see how Holder, Vaculik , Pawlicki and Cook will get one. The top 6 are set and then its any two from Laguta, Emil, Doyle , Zagar and Pedersen for the last two places. Personally i think Doyle will get in and then i would imagine any two from 3, maybe all 3. Would you then look to the challenge for the last place? Well Cook and Lambert just missed out in that but i would imagine with his performances in the SEC and the nations event that Lambert would get that nod ahead of Cook. The riders going into the GP have to better surely than the ones dropping out. Can anybody actually say that a Milik is more deserving than Pedersen? I dont care about fresh blood i want the best possible line up. Lets say Doyle gets in then i would have the wildcards as Laguta/Emil (whoever misses out) Zagar, Pedersen and Lambert

Finished work at 5.30pm and rushed to the bookies and had two £5 win singles on Janowski and Dudek.........................will find out later if they pay out on the final or the fact Doyle had the most points! Never stopped to ask as was in a rush

And the reward for the most stupid post of the night goes to?????

Because it’s an individual event so why should he!

And it’s irrelevant so it’s not even worth debating Ready to race is ready to race doesn’t matter if your one foot away like Janowski was and gardening or if like Tai you were 5 feet away Learn the rules then you might have a point

Not commenting anymore ive said my piece Shame that 2 people feel the need to give out personal insults and talk about private lives rather than speedway

But my dad is bigger than your dad

I have had many issues with you in the past and have overstepped the line with you on many occasions. Ive had serious illness just like yourself (mine was in 2013) and although i still dont agree with some of your posts i havent commented on the things you have said because i dont want to go down that road with you. I will say that you have been fair to me as well on here. However i will also say i dont like Matt Ford, you wont change that opinion of me If other Poole fans want to go personal then that also is something that is bullying.

Find the name calling then Ive been banned for using the words numpty, prat , idiot and clown, hardly offensive unless your a little bit precious. Luckily all the stuff they want to say about my personal life doesnt affect me, mainly due to how wrong they are thats its comical. I guess they get their kicks out of it..........maybe their wives left them and they have nothing better to do

Doesnt bother me to be honest, its actually quite comical that he has got it so far wrong. Got divorced last year after i left her......we still get on ok but for whatever reason the ginger one feels it necessary to bring it up in every post........now says i bully him..............bless

Seems to take great delight in my private life.............but is so far wide of the mark its funny..........the man is quite clearly not right in the head

Lol what a piece of work you are. Didnt say it was me in drag..said my work colleagues changed it when i was in a coma, well just out of it so im glad that makes you chuckle And i left my wife as i told you yesterday.....but dont let that get in the way of having a pop.....pathetic troll

Sorry maybe my original post should have had a longer wording. I clearly state the Poole race wasnt as good as heat 13 as there was only 2 riders..and also said the Poole race wasnt as good as Loram v Louis in my opinion looking at 2 rider races. Must remember to write an essay next time