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If a business plan is to make money by short changing customers then god help that business. To make money they could try try providing a good night out a a price commensurate and show a product worthy of being termed a sport. On the other hand they could simply not bother and just try and make more out of the few mugs that are left

Nonsense. It is not the remains of the speedway public you need to chase, it is a whole new audience. Have you any idea how much advertising on SKY would cost. Speedway should have been treating these nights as virtually free advertising and showing the sport as a vibrant, must attend night out. It cannot look like that when no one is actually there. Admission of a fiver, or less, and fill the venues gives it an air of a good night out. All you do with events like last night is convince the casual observer that here is a sport in its death throes best left alone. Of course that's only half the problem. First rule of marketing is do not advertise a product that is flawed. Anyone with a modicum of nouse can attract a crowd once, even if its just the free admission route, but to get them back a second time they have to be enamoured with the product. Fail to deliver and that potential customer is lost forever, you do not get second chances. The truth, in most occasions, is the old "bring a friend" trotted out by most promotions simply costs you potential fans in the long term because you will have bored them to tears

Not really, it would only be a variation on the CMA as it is now.

The concept of averages is the most simple thing in sport yet some on here claim it to be complicated Football has stats like goals per game, for instance Wayne Rooney scores 0.5 goals a game, that must be awfully confusing, how do you score half a goal!!!!

Grading are the least fair way of doing it. If you grade in 2 point increments how many riders at the bottom of the band will get a job

And me, and all we are doing is primary school maths!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder what would happen if you could make exact clones of Ivan Mauger and Hans Nielsen and staff the entire league with them. Imagine how good it would be. All 70 riders in the league on a 15 point average. The crowds would be flocking back !!!!!! The thing is though whenever someone states the league was stronger 30 years ago I don't disagree, it is when they then go on to prove it by comparing averages then and now that it comes unstuck

Now this is comedy gold, even Starman couldn't better this. Do you understand the basic concept of a CMA.

Imagine Ian's horror if he was a Chelsea supporter. His life would be taken over trying to get them re named. Just picking the name of a nearby borough, how ridiculous, no wonder that sport isn't taken seriously by the media.

Well however it was stored they need to try and replicate it for the future because it worked pretty well in Warsaw. As temporary tracks go it was producing some good racing with riders giving it a good go. It was fairly smooth with a nice amount of grip. All in all a pretty good track.

The results obtained by Mr Ward in all the Competitions in which he participated subsequent to the positive test, from 17 August 2014 until 27 August 2014, are cancelled, with all resulting consequences, including forfeiture of any points and prizes. The red part seems to be the damming bit, it seems to suggest they expect his scores in all matches during that spell changed and the consequences applied. To be honest though I am not sure of the FIMs jurisdiction over our league structure, the Elite Leage is not an FIM competition and I wouldn't have thought they could impose this. That said though if the SCB had teeth like it used to they would not need forcing, the changes would be applied immediately. Whatever the outcome the whole world knows that Pooles title is now null and void

Like I explained earlier, they were never officially England Why haven't you started a similar thread demanding Belle Vue be re named Gorton

Test matches are not FIM events, they are just arrangements between federations, hence England v Rest of the world or Australasia etc. In the SWC they represent Great Britain, this isn't to be pedantic or argumentative, its just a fact

They don't represent England, any more than they represent Manchester. The represent Great Britain.

The official records show Great Britain every year. England was never the official team name Why, you want the team named after where the riders came from so why not Manchester

The results obtained by Mr Ward in all the Competitions in which he participated subsequent to the positive test, from 17 August 2014 until 27 August 2014, are cancelled, with all resulting consequences, including forfeiture of any points and prizes. It may be old ground but it really does mean that Poole's League title is null and void. They fielded an ineligible rider and it altered the actual league positions. You can't simply upgrade Coventry because the semi final was flawed due to Poole picking Kings Lynn. The only possible outcome is to go back to the original league placings making Kings Lynn champions. All resulting consequences seems to cover it,

Well both really!!!! Calm down old timer, I am already on Sidneys hit list, I don't need any more enemies

Bet that went right over a few heads. Just when you thought it was safe to back in the water eh

You are welcome As to Ian's original point whether it should be Great Britain or Team GB, it is totally insignificant. It is a name, no more no less and the subject doesn't warrant the minute of my time this took to type

Officially it has always been Great Britain. We have always been able to draw riders from any country which is represented by our ACU at the FIM, Up to the late 70s New Zealand fell into this category and as such were eligible for GB. From 1973, even though they were still eligible, we elected to drop the New Zealanders and use British riders only, to distinguish this change they were then known colloquially as England although still officially as Great Britan. By the late 70 New Zealand became affiliated to the FIM in their own right and were now not eligible anyway. Whether you want to refer to them as England, Manchester or Roscoes select is up to you but they are, and always have been Great Britain

I presume you would like the 1984 world pairs champions referred to as Manchester then as thats where the winning team came from. This has been gone over dozens of times. It is great britain because it is the representative team of the acu who represent 2 and 3 wheel motorsport in great britain at the fim, it is irrelevent that the team at the moment all hail from england

I saw Ashby on many many occasions Sid. At hyde Road when he represented Swindon and Exeter and also lots of blrcs. My overriding memory of Crash was the 1975 british final were he narrowly lost a run off for the last place to Ray Wilson. Wilson had fell first time out but ammassed 11 from his other 4 rides, the same as Ashby. Overall i would probably say he was maybe in the top dozen brits of both 60s snd 70s

Where else

BSI make approx 1.5 million profit out of the SGP per year. If they split it 4 ways between the Danes Swedes Poles and ourselves the thats £375,000 per country. Split 20 ways that is less than 20K per track. The sky deal was putting roughly double that into the Elite League, how much has that helped

That story never worked for me either when I have rolled home p!ssed as a fart. "But love I have only had 1 drink"