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Spot on Phil. In reality the GP was 10 years late. Successful business' dont wait for the cracks to turn into vast chasms. Constant evolution is essential but speedway was content to sit on a business model 20 years out of date and failing fast

If you avoid posting crap like the above, and liking other posts which are just as stupid then you wont get sarcastic responses. A speedway bike on a display on TV FFS

It doesn't even have planning permission to be built. Looks like the Aces are at the dog track in 2014 now

It is the representative team of the ACU and the ACU have no jurisdiction in Northern Ireland so no Paddy's in team GB yet!!!!

It was Ronnie Russell, not Len Silver

Is there a right and wrong? I agree with you really, probably long before your time but it always seemed odd in the Eng v USA test matches of the early 80s the amount of Brits supporting the yanks. It was then, and probably still is, simply club rider support being transferred to his national team

Unless things have changed a rider in the World Cup will represent the country who issue his passport, in Sullivans case this would have been Australia. In individual world championship events, i.e the GP, a rider wears the colours of the country who issue his race license. Merely by riding on a license of the PZM for example wouldn't make a rider eligible to ride for Poland in the WTC, but because his affiliation to the FIM is through the Polish Federation he would wear the Polish flag on his body colour in the GP

It is done in order that the World Cup can be moved around a bit from the usual Denmark/Poland and occasionally Sweden/UK cycle. No other country in their right mind would take the event without the security of knowing they were in it to draw a crowd. Even in the sports glory days the terraces at White City in 76/79/82 were empty thanks to the absence of the hosts. Ironic as England were quite successful during that period and the only times we failed to qualify was when we were hosting the event

2012 was the first year that the hosts were seeded In 2011 Poland qualified for the Gorzow Final by winning at Kings Lynn In 2010 The Danes qualified for the Vojens final via the race off after being second in the Gorzow round In 2009 The Ploes qualified for the Leszno Final by winning at Peterborough I could go back further but still no team was seeded to the final

OK then, what about when you go to the newsagent for your Daily Mail. They hadn't sold many of yesterdays so it was on sale today with an insert for the TV page. You would be OK with that I take it. All promoters are doing is ensuring less and less fans buy programmes. In business it is so easy to rip people off, you can con anyone and everyone but only once they rarely come back a second time

And why no track at Cape Canaveral

Short stroke motors and super lightweight flywheels dont help though, it may get to peak revs pretty darn quick but will die a death as it hits any resistance, i.e dirt. For a rider only a few feet from a fence and going the wrong direction this is a mega problem, by the time the bikes got back enough revs to slide the back wheel and make a turn the rider is already under the fence

Have a look at September 06th 1976. All the back pages were almost given over entirely to speedway on that day

In reality though it pretty much always has been. It was popular late 20s early thirties because it was new but pretty soon was in decline, the invention of team racing carried it through to the war. Of course post war with a population starved of entertainment in had a boom 1946 to the early/mid 50s but by then (not helped by the entertainment tax) it was in decline up to the formation of the British League in 1965. This was the longest level of success the sport has known but by the early eighties the decline had started again and carried on right through to today. In an 85 year existence the sport was only really popular for less than 25 of those years, and in truth that was more luck than judgement.

It is like having an opinion that 2 + 2 = 5. It is wrong, totally wrong and provable so. It would make me look foolish if I kept banging on that it is all about opinion whenever anyone tried to put me straight on it would it not

What a crock of sh!t, totally made up crap to suit a point of view. Although to be honest I had the same happen to me at a Champions League football match. I was stood next to a new fan and when the full time aggregate score was announced as 3/3 he said when is the replay, I had to explain there wasn't one because the team with 2 away goals were deemed to have won, of course he was long gone before I finished explaining

Thats a yes then

Have you been on the sherry this afternoon!!!!! Thats the point I was making and you were arguing with me a while back, now you are posting links to back up my point It has neither helped, nor hindered. It is totally insignificant in speedways slow demise.

42.5 wouldn't be artificially low, it is 0.5 above the equilibrium. Every rider who rode one season could be accommodated somewhere the next season, no one gets forced out. Old riders retire, quit etc and new ones step up from the lower leagues. It is the artificially low sub 40 limits that lead to the diluting of rider strength that exists today

But speedway in Poland is watched by Poles living in Poland, working in Poland, earning a Polish type salary. Like I said speedway in Poland is now far more expensive than here.

Well that proves my point then, it is far higher than here in real terms I didn't realise it was quite so high though, what would that equate to here £25.00 maybe.

No all teams had 7 heat leaders, all with averages above 6. Makes you wonder how it was done with only 6 points available every race but there you go. And a proper world championship with star studded fields every year.

It would end up with the strong getting stronger and the weak going out of business. If the amount of teams remains the same the limit should be 42.5, a small increase if a team is lost and a small deduction if a team comes in. Maintain that for a few years and thats how to get continuity

And worth remembering that Polish speedway is going down the pan faster than speedway over here. The crowds are falling and it is now much more expensive to watch than speedway over here. I hardly think we should be looking at the Polish model as to how to run a sport, they are merely recreating all the faults British Speedway has made over the last 30 years/

With the riders coming from where? The champions will likely average around 46 to 48 with the poorest teams 36 to 38 so where are these poorer teams going to get riders if no teams have to release any. And fans wonder why promoters dont listen to them with half baked suggestions like that one