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Todays individual champion is Christian Thaysen DK 33333 15 Kasper Faarkrogh DK 22333 13 Antti Vuolas FI 32322 12 Frederik Jakobsen DK 23231 11 Filip Hjelmland SE 30232 10 Mads Hansen DK d2323 10 Christoffer Selvin SE 33112 10 Alexander Woentin SE 21222 9 Arttu Pentinmäki FI F1023 6 Timi Salonen FI 13101 6 Joni Laukkanen FI 12111 6 Toni Hyyryläinen FI 21011 5 Niklas Säyriö FI 00210 3 Sebastian Selvin SE 10100 2 Rasmus Finne FI 01000 1 Jere Kristola FI 00000 0 Erä erältä: 1. Hjelmland, Hyyryläinen, S.Selvin, Finne 51,88 2. Thaysen, Woentin, Laukkanen, Säyriö 51,22 3. Vuolas, Faarkrogh, Pentinmäki F, Hansen d 52,48 4. Selvin, Jakobsen, Salonen, Kristola 51,86 5. Selvin, Vuolas, Hyyryläinen, Säyriö 51,29 6. Salonen, Laukkanen, Pentinmäki, S.Selvin 53,46 7. Thaysen, Faarkrogh, Finne, Kristola 51,04 8. Jakobsen, Hansen, Woentin, Hjelmaland 51,87 9. Faarkrogh, Jakobsen, Laukkanen, Hyyryläinen 52,47 10. Hansen, Säyriö, S.Selvin, Kristola 53,64 11. Vuolas, Woentin, Salonen, Finne 52,12 12. Thaysen, Hjelmland, Selvin, Pentinmäki 51,18 13. Thaysen, Hansen, Hyyryläinen, Salonen 51,18 14. Faarkrogh, Woentin, Selvin, S.Selvin 49,70 15. Jakobsen, Pentinmäki, Säyriö, Finne 53,28 16. Hjelmland, Vuolas, Laukkanen, Kristola 51,90 17. Pentinmäki, Woentin, Hyyryläinen, Kristola 51,75 18. Thaysen, Vuolas, Jakobsen, S.Selvin 49,89 19. Hansen, Selvin, Laukkanen, Finne 53,05 20. Faarkrogh, Hjelmland, Salonen, Säyriö 51,38 Tuomari: Mika Laukkanen, katsojia 110. Mads Hansen fell in his first and was disqualified. Jakobsen was in real pain with his back. I'll post heat details in the morning. Team Champs from 11 AM Finnish time.

How frequent REALLY do they get 15k in Poland? Story not so long ago how only a handful of people watching a meeting at Pitkos. At Poznan NIMBY'S are trying to block the return of the local track. All roses, yes...

I actually dont rate their league that high, I just dont. And their tracks (not stadia) are just crap most if the time, potato field seems to be the norm from my experience from reading news and watching videos. What I do rate though, quite high actually, is the micro- and minispeedway system and structure. That also gives them the possibility to track a large amount of Danish riders in their league, as about a half a dozen new riders step up yearly and move to the 500cc scene. Thats why they are so strong in the U21's as well. With a huge base of riders in mini and micro also makes for a substantial mass of volunteers for clubs (as in not uk style promotions) to do "stuff", like organize meetings. I actually dont have any knowledge of how their training sessions work, do you? Maybe TWK??

BSPA spin in the Spar... It's a direct quote from Jon Cook. We all have the right not to believe it as a fact.

How do other Elite tracks compare? Denmark??

A story in the lates Spar saying how Lakeside has changed from 2007 to 2014 while doubling their average crowd. Also states that they are making a yearly profit. Also the pay rate in Sweden is between Uk and Poland, A LOT closer to UK I might add.

What kind of homologation stamp do they have? Full 5 years or nothing??

And the crowd was? I thought it was quite big, third tier way more people than before if my memory serves me. Nigel mentioned 50k in his commentating... And the crowd was? I thought it was quite big, third tier way more people than before if my memory serves me. Nigel mentioned 50k in his commentating...

Providing the money is good enough for the full year.

I frequently write russian riders names and was at one point a bit worried if I'm getting them right or not. Then I read a big story on our newspaper that around 60% of russians themselves dont know the correct spelling of their name. I just stick with the first once picked.

If you change that to ... if you think you are fit enough and will ride... Then I'll agree.

Gonna watch this with buckets of cold beer on the shoreline of the Adriatic sea. Cant wait!

There's some truth in that, no doubt. Also, maybe the fact that MJJ's right leg was almost chopped of from hip down in a challenge match in Poland last March has something to do with his form?

He's qualified for the Challenge as a reserve. Done it all by himself. You can not compare that with last year.

In all honesty... When is it not a risky business owning a sports series?

Buy BSI from IMG and it's (SGP) yours.

No comment on the first one, but I do think that the FIM as the highest authority in global speedway is exactly the entity that can sell the rights.

Why wouldn't they get all the money? It's their show, they've bought the rights from FIM.

I see nylon suits... They were supposed to be banned.

Composition is beneath my post. They had a good old fashion re-vamp last winter. Stekkers for intance is in it now. Thats kind of the problem with CCP, since it's not a job you apply to, you instead get a bunch of grey people that chat about the good old times! I do realise that the previous sentence was over-stepping it, but thats sort of the idea of I was after. And the amateurish concept of speedway goverment goes all the way down to me for example, I'm in the SML track racing commission. There's stuff I need to do for no compensation from SML, and when I do it, I sometimes get hurt financially... It's pretty fugged up system in every way! As a self employed entrepeneur, I've had another awakening, It's called bookkeeping. It's a marvellous form of art that can do miracles on one's finances either way... I feel compelled to say that many people make money out of speedway. But they do it AFTER they have put they balls on the line... Bureau Gregory RICCI Coordinator Wolfgang GLAS DMSB Anthony STEELE ACU / BSPA Thierry BOUIN FFM Piotr SZYMANSKI PZM Tony OLSSON SVEMO Jan STAECHMANN DMU Officials Alex HARKESS ACU Frank ZIEGLER DMSB David JOINER AMA Graham BRODIE ACU Svend JACOBSEN DMU Petr MORAVEC ACCR Wojciech STEEPHIEWSKI PZM Oleg ZAKHAROV MFR Christian BOUIN FFM Lydia ROBIN FFM Ilkka TEROMAA SML Expert Mick BATES ACU

I've just recently woken up to this problem, but the fact is that CCP is a bunch of amateurs. Not saying that they are idiots or incompetent at all, but they really are just a bunch of good willing people that are willingly spending their free time for the benefit of speedway. They really do NOT get (enough anyway) financial compensation for their efforts. There's a lot of knowledge in there and they do get somethings right the first time. But the mean spiriteness and ässholiness that is sometimes required to steer a ship in another direction (what ever that is) is lacking in my opinion. And also at times they seem to feel that they are above the laws of reality. I say this with a memory of the 7 round U21 WC which in my mind was total madness. But then again, in this thread anyway, if they really wanted to and banned all tracks without APD's, they would be pissing on their own feet big time. So they are in a really difficult situation.

Basically, yes.

If you are licensed by your national federation, then you are also under FIM. So in that case FIM could ban you through your own federation. If you are not licensed, then you can do what you want. For example get insurance where you want (or can get it) and so on. But then you cant compete with the licensed guys, you can kiss all your championship dreams good bye... But on the other hand you can create your own! If the FIM would issue an amendment to the APD rule, we then would have tools to create a 2nd hand market for APD's. I'm told from FIM via grapevine thats why the homologation runs out on them, to make them 2nd hand and available. They've just forgotten to give the tools for us (FMN's) to make the scrapped APD's legal again...

One way of getting airfences in to Finland is to adopt the British way. Make riders ride for free and put that money in to the fences. This is a good idea, yes? Well the reality is that we would need 4 seasons of free speedway to get four tracks "fenced". Thats with the current "godfathers" of Finnish speedway putting their money in to fences/organisations they have no control or say over. No one even knows if there's a league in Finland next season! And the riders then... Ride for free... Even if and when the money is not that great, the whole idea stops there.

No one gives a crap when I say making airfence's mandatory would kill speedway in Finland. Well, what about what this bloke says on that Facebook site: Dave Parker: Same here in Aussie Nick, the 3 main bike tracks have Airfences, but there are so many car/bike tracks around Australia, it would be impossible to have all tracks use Airfences. Also and not for one moment say it doesn't happen, but Sidecars are as big or bigger in Australia than Solo's and they "normally" don't spear off into the fence. If we banned all tracks that didn't have an Airfence, we would have 3 tracks in Australia which is about 4 times the size of Europe. That would crucify Speedway in Australia Nick Mallett says on the same site that there should be a recycling program of fences to make them available second hand. Yes there should be one. One question though: There is no absolute way of checking the airfence, if it's good or not. They have the homologation stamp and they are useless after seven (5+2) years. How can any national federation give them a new homologation stamp for more years, when the reason why they are scrapped isn't even available. The whole process is based on visual inspection! Now if I bought 10 second hand fences and install them on Finnish tracks... Someone hits the fence, turns out it's out of date, what will the insurance company say? I'm pretty confident they wont pay, thats for sure. EDIT: Niels-Kristian Iversen went on top of my hero-list when he said in his column on a Kings Lynn local paper, that there's no sense in making new rules, forcing suits and such if the tracks are crap. Prepare the track for speedway and the safety in our sport will increase considerably!