Paul Johnson

i dont like to slag riders off, all are heroes but when it comes to guests how many would pass like jorgy did for a 5.1?did he have too? no, did he want too? yep, i believe birksy would, tofty would, barker would, they are racers, some would of settled for 3d and the points pay.jorgy HAS to be back, the fans relate to him, same as josh, same as ryan,same as birks, same as tofty,.wilcko is scunny through and through and will give and support scunny 110%, jorgy and ryan need to be pairing, and im sure they are best mates,give the stay awayfans what they want and they will return,

good shout about galnford park outsider, what happens to the seats etc when it gets knocked down? sold, given away, reused? maybe in the off season if we carry on we could do a fans clean and paint day? dont newcastle do that? at weekends we come down with a paint brush or two and spruce it up, also everyone who attends a meeting has to realise what rob does, its not just turning up maybe an hour before a meeting like we do, he is there bascially 24/7 53 weeks of the year,its his baby and we need to back him, one good thing to come of this is we are all talking now and it is out there for all to see, radio 1 now, this forum, facebook and twitter, hopefully robs love of the sport has been rekindled with that, same as those who have stayed away, they know the racing is spot on, if its because a certain rider or riders dont race now or because ones injured or because we may not win this week so im not paying to find out,get back down to us, time is not on your side to sit it out until we do have a rider you like, back rob and the team, also please dont leave just as heat 15 is starting if you really dont have too, people moan that there are not crowd or rider interaction,when we win a match the riders will do a victory walk, its wasnt a one off,they will walk through the crowd, congratulate them , shake their hands, everyone rider really does appreciate it, if youre on the 1st or 2nd bends get down to the start line just after the flag. on little moan though.. cant remember if rider theme tunes were played, please pump em out when we do.

wouldnt sundays put an end to amatuers meets and all the open trainings schools on sundays?

he said it was absolutely fantastic

do people say 15 quid is too much because thats what its been decided, i mean if the entrance to all tracks was reduced to say 10 to 12 over all premier league tracks, over say 5 or 6 years would poeople complain about it being to high and then say its not a 10 sport its a 5er sport?some say its £50 to come each week so thats £200 a month which thinking about is hell of a lot, especially if they do footy too and most will weigh up which is more for me... ok footy/ instead of running every week couldlnt clubs run everyother week like footy? or would that make the entrance fee rise? it wouldnt work for scunny i think because its mainly full of shiff workers like myself who have to miss everyother friday unless i book a day off, also scunny does offer value for money its just what you consider to be that.. people say put 2nd halves on,,, most of the time he does with youngsters doing 2 or 4 team matches, so youre getting extra racing for nothing yet most of the fans wont stop to see it, yet most of the posts on here or facebook moan about not seeing young uns coming through, people say i want to see racing start at 7.30 and finish by 8.30 9.00 with no delays and then moan because scunny dosnt go intervals so miss races when they go for food,i personally get there as early as possible for gates opening and try to stay untill kicking out time so for me my £15 gives me 4 hours of entertainment. just one more thing... i was at cardiff last week and belle vue had a stall with a bike outside for people to sit on and do reaction times on it. what if rob got a practice bike out from wayne carters lock up, stick it near the pit gate and bill and bens shop for kids to sit on, even adults, people were flocking to sit on it and having photos, gave them that once in a lifetime chance to be a rider and it does cost a cent

and this is why crowds at scunny are dwindling...not supporting a team.....one post on facebook mirrored this quote..."scunny havent built a solid looking side for a couple of seasons and dosent exite me enough to want to go and watch them"...ok then stay away until we do build a team you like or get a rider you like...oh hang on the club wont run by them, talk about supporting your team, dont make me laugh

scunny speedway fans are very fickle, half of us like to see racing and watching talent come through, we like to see them come to us and get better each week, birksy, tofty, tj,blackbird, ryan,nike, as rob likes to bring through untried riders, many recommended by other riders because they know rob and the track will benefit their careers. now the other half are not prepared to watch them start off, or even understand what rob is doing, our plight is on facebook in various posts,giving reasons why they arent attending, and rob seems to me he cant win either way, ie."so much for weening the new blood, why bring him into the team when he could use his many riders from the amatuer scene"?. so rob brings im matt williamson last year, josh bates before, ellis perks this year, at the time all good points scorers in the nl, then they say, "well waht do you expect when you have rubbish reseveses going round half a lap behind or fall off all the time or havent won for 50 odd starts" "im not paying to watch them do that"

every time we have double headers, this year and before, 3/4s of the crowd leave after the main event, they have paid £2 to watch another 15 heats of speedway at nl level but wont watch it, 2 bleeding quid and they moan about the standard of racing.."im not paying to watch that rubbish," so i cant see the crowds flocking back in to pay whatever it costs to watch us in the nl, again the die hard core would pay to watch me granny race a monkey if it meant we were watching racing, , i also agree about the polish population, its too dear compared with home and i think they are used to going in "proper stadiums" , a couple came once last year and sat in front of us, we got chatting and they said the facilities are very very basic compared to torun etc.

it has to be because we arent winning at home, the results arent happenning, the floating fans are reading the updates or telegraphs website and saying "lost again",also its been aprill since we tracked a full 1 to 7 and by reading various posts on bsf and facebook people will not pay to see a guest who dosent score what he did for his team the previous visits or r/r, the ones who stay away dont not care or realise the damage they are causing to the club, all our ideas in the scorps meetinfs would have helped more for next year, maybe not enough time to implement for this year, it was brought up iin the meetings about an "all in price" same as the greyhounds, as the outsider said, you turn up with say £18 and thats for entrance, programme, burger and a drink, it sounds better when you pitch it to some, ive had positive reaction from friends who like that idea, they ask how much is speedway? and i say,£15 to get in, then you need this then you need that and you can see them working the price out and saying thats a lot, so if you said just bring a twenty pound note you will be sorted. i was positive that once we won our first meeting at home the crowd would come back,but now we have just short of 2 months left i think its too late for them to teturn,

tbh there hasnt been that many big job losses in scunthorpe in recent years , maybe like mentioned above, government cuts? i think that as of now the crowd there are now are the "die hard" ones who will go no matter what, the 200 that have disappeared are the ones who think results matter and wont pay to watch a team sat at the foot of the table, some of those maybe decided because thomas and ash were not there then im not going, especially with ryan not starting the season again.i saw people i know turn up because ryan was back in then not been since he got injured, also with josh out too they dont seem to have a "favourite" to cheer on, ( a la, ash, tj, tofty, howe) i said before we ahve to go 1 more year for nike to develop like ryan, then the fans cant behind him, a big hitting number 1, like mr barker who should be guarenteed to score 10 or 15 everywhere he goes,start the season in good form then the crowds will stay through the season, instead of dwindling off like now, that would pay his wages,go for it big time ,if it works, great, if it dosent work then scunny dosent want speedway

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i think it should be.. the rider, his mechanic and one quest of the rider, ie, wife or girlfriend that get in for free, track volunteers on the day and the volunteers who helped out at the amatuer meets (most of the time its the same people) who get in for free, i know some who get in at scunny because they "know people", at a time when scunny need all the money coming in as possible it should be clamped down on.

o dear scarra not good news it, seems like people need very little excuse to not attend speedway but need something big to get them back.. i honestly think people have stayed away from scunny because of birksy. tj and ryan not being there, to some extent josh, because the fans need to have a"scunny man" to cheer on, wilcko is one of those but he has just come back to us but probably not held in high esteem as those four, not knocking him, i think he is a briliant team member and would have him in my team all day long, nike needs one more year then will benefit like ryan did, i know rob dosent like to build with a "big" number 1 but i would do it and say "one more year, if it goes wrong then ok we close", i know josh is on a high average 8.36? but id go for ben barker, josh, ryan,wilcko,tofty, nike and a 3 pointer reserve,(clegg?,rose? greenwoods?), if it dosent work then fine, but if it does and it gets crowds back then thumbs up,draw a line on this season rob, luck isnt on our side this season,go for it next year and watch em come back,

scunny, to some its all about winning and not being entertained, but i suppose its there money, they are entitled to stop away but its going to stop it for us die hard ones who like to watch anyone one a bike

dont worry about assets, there wont be any left when we close down next year.

i know, for some reason i keep doing that, then try and correct it, must of slipped through

if you read robs statement or davids comments in the speedway star david wasnt expected to ride again this season,so rob built a new team, he want dropped or surplus to requirements,or released, we cant wait for him to decide if he ready or not. even when glasgow first rang him he said he wasnt sure if his shoulder was upto it, if he had said yes the first time i dont think tis would all kick off, its just ironic timing, also the only reason you were entitled to use a guest was because of stuart robson doing the same for coventry, david may of signed for glasgow but who is he an asset of? wolves or scunny?,,,, anyways rob helped your wishes and got nothing, if we beat newcastle it would make the next round that more spicy.

life is about doing favours for each other.... glasgow wanted david howe.... rob said "ok no problem, if you want him this is what i want in return, please dont use a quest on friday"... rob felt let down by a promotion maybe new to speedway? dont know who the new owners are, dont care really, i agree nothing illegal has happened, its just the backing down on a verbal agreement(if there was one) thats upset him, if you lot really wanted to field the best team on friday, then you must of been scared of getting beat.... and if deals are broken then other teams may run scared of helping glasgow in the future.

tell it how it is.... as in .. speak his mind,maybe why refs fine him so much

sorry gaz that wasnt meant specifically to you, i was speaking generally, like i said we believe rob and glasgow will believe your management,to be fair maybe it should of been kept between then selves, but like i said, rob will tell it how it is...

if rob himself repeated on here what he told us, would you still deny there was a gentlemans agreement?,,, obviously yes, because us scunny fans will believe rob, you glasgow fans will be on the side of glasgows.... if you know rob then you know he will tell you straight what he thinks of things, swearing at the ref, our riders not riding the track he prepared for them. , what i heard was that davids signing was based on glasgow not going with a guest, but r/r , they agreed then when signed they went back on the "agreement" .. i wish the meeting was videoed then people could hear what he said (unless it got edited out)..didnt rob request a song from barry when the meeting was getting started? sorry i posted when rob was typing then saw he had posted.... sorry rob

it was your post earlier gaz... "i didnt hear what rob was saying" what i meant about quesing

its the "gentlemans agreement" that got broke thats rattled rob.. to me if someone didnt hear what he said then he or she shouldnt second quess what was said. i believe rob knew that glasgow were planning to use a guest but asked for a favour by saying they could david this week instead of after the match, a gentlemans agreement was agreed last week with lakeside regarding ben barker and ashley birks i believe, its not about what "scunny have done it before", its about promoters talking deals over the phone, and thinking you have people who you can trust, of course glasgow were in the right to use a guest as the bspa granted the facility, did the mangemaent go back on their word as i dont think david would have been with glasgow last night if they hadnt agreed..... could someone explain why berge did hand gestures to the crowd coming off bend 4 please?

i didnt think rob said that david wouldnt go to glasgow.... he said "he didnt expect david to ride again this year", then he heard that he wanted to go to glasgow and it was ironic that it was scunny on friday, so he gave permission for dave to go on loan as he had to problem with david wanting to ride again but asked (i quess the manager) that if i lend you him please dont use a quest for sarjeant," so for rob to ok davids move glasgow must of done a gentlemans agreement which they have backed out of? hence the "win at all costs" i also think that sarjeant was missing because he was doubling up, he wasnt missing got he got injured as he would of been missing any way, with the summers incident at the tapes... seemed to me that he did delay the start because his bike stopped, he was the primary cause of the stoppage ,if his bike hadnt packed up then everthings hunky dory, the ref put the red lights on to halt the start? , maybe to stop all the riders revving up etc?

would r/r scored as many as covatti? i doubt it as someone said to me ,david howe and the reserves would be allowed as r/r..feel sorry for NIke, he looked really fast getting 2 race wins to start off, joked about him getting 18 points, guess i put the mockers on him..... he did a wheelie to celebrate his 2nd win and fell off the back, totalling his bike and i think his 2nd one too, it went hurdling the fences in heat 11.it was an entertaining but in incidents... like the first poster stated....also who is to blame for the quest? glasgow for using him or the bspa for allowing? rob said his wasnt happy with the win at all cost glasgow,